Residential dishwashers

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Do dishwashers in residence's have to have disconnect within site of dishwasher. Or be enabled with a lockout tag out device on the breaker in the panel board. This because it has a motor?
 
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The only other excitable method would perhaps be a unit switch with a marked of position, But check with you authority. A disconnect is a single throw so multiple switches would not qualify.
 
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The opitions are cord and plug for the dishwasher, breaker with lockout, wall switch at the unit or dishwasher that has a switch with a marked off position can just be fed directly. This last one makes no sense to me as even if the switch is off the dishwasher is still being fed power. Not a safe situation for a repairman.
 
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We already have a about a foot and it's still snowing like crazy. :cool:

Looks like we're in the same 12"-18" range as Bob.

Trevor

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This last one makes no sense to me as even if the switch is off the dishwasher is still being fed power. Not a safe situation for a repairman.
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Scott, I agree. It has stuck in my craw for years that an appliance such as a dishwasher, or washing machine with an "off position wswitch" doesn't require a "in sight" disconnect other than that switch. Very often that "off positions switch" is the critter the repair man is working on.
I sssume the CMP feels if you are making electrical repairs, you know enough to turn the breaker off (though many won't), and if you are making mechanical repairs, the unit switch is good enough. You're right, if we were really trying to make it a safe situation for the repairperson, there would be an independant switch at or near the appliance.
 
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Been snowing off and on here since Friday night and is not supposed to end until tomorrow morning.

Roger
 
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I went out this morning about 11:00. We received 9" of snow. First snow for my new Dodge Ram 1500 quad cab 4x4 with 20" rims. I went to my old high school and burned a half a tank of gas doing donuts. :p
 
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Originally posted by chicar:
I went out this morning about 11:00. We received 9" of snow. First snow for my new Dodge Ram 1500 quad cab 4x4 with 20" rims. I went to my old high school and burned a half a tank of gas doing donuts. :D Yee haa!
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Originally posted by electricmanscott:
Did you rock out to some Zepplin man? :D Yee haa!
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I have received favorable comments from AHJ regarding my habit of tapping the D/W from a small appliance circuit on load side of a ground fault. It has the dual purpose of providing GFCI protection to an appliance that brings electricity and water into very close proximity as a matter of course, and providing a verifiable shutoff point well within sight of the appliance. It also provides protection in case some tech works a D/W hot because he thinks he is 10 ft. tall and bulletproof.

I do the same thing for disposals.

I personally think that there is something to be said for cord and plug connected D/W and disposal with ground fault protection. It would make the things easier to work on and provide a fool- proof disconnecting means. GFCI protection would not be hard. Just feed the appliance receptacle from an easily accessible GFCI. You could even theoretically run them on the same circuit with a GFCI properly placed under the sink. At worst, the NEC or AHJ would require an in-use cover.

If anybody thinks they could dress this up into an acceptable 2008 code recommendation, please be my guest and do so with my endless blessings.

[ February 14, 2006, 02:04 AM: Message edited by: Matt Harp ]
 
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