Residential light pole base

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hhsting

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I noticed that some light poles on commercial parking light have concrete base that elevates them from floor like this:


However, residential light poles do not have them like this:


I heard pole base foundation are installed so water does not get into pole and for safety reason. How can residential poles avoid such water getting into them without pole base foundation? Should residential pole also have base foundation?
 

Aledrell

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I’m not a diehard commercial guy but I have had some experience. I think it’s due more to vehicular traffic safety. I’ve had to replace light pole in church parking lots bc that’s where the teenagers would do doughnuts and smashed into a pole. It didn’t have a raised based. They then hit again after we replaced it with a raised concrete base and it now leans a little but it’s still standing. Wish I could see what it did to the truck or car.....


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augie47

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Wow!
You mean to say that folks follow different requirements when installing a 50ft light pole in a commercial parking lot than they do at the end of ma-maw's driveway. A shocker !!!!
If it makes you happy, here's Home Depot instructions
 

Hv&Lv

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If we set light poles in a parking lot area we install our lights on 30” concrete bases.
Mainly for the reason Aledrell already mentioned.
 

hhsting

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Post #1 I don’t mean residential as in driveway. I mean residential street light one installs for neighborhood. We have new townhome community being built and this is commercial/residential in that light poles are for interior community not for ones driveway or home post #1.
 

roger

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Water has nothing to do with it. If water was a concern post bases in coastal areas would be on 12, 13, 14, foot bases or even higher. Just send the plans on up the line, don't waste any more time on it.

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josiahcarlson

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Like most things near a street they are designed to break when hit to cause the least amount of damage. Like road signs on wooden posts with holes drilled in the base so they break away when hit.

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hillbilly1

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North Georgia mountains
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Most commercial pole bases are wind rated. Most of the ones I have installed are usually 6-8' deep. They are not designed to break away. Only poles along streets are designed to be breakaway due to the higher collision speeds, and the base is flush with the ground. (The pole breaks away) I had one plan reviewer demand straight anchor bolts be used, saying it was stronger. Apparently thats how they do it in California. (Where he was from) Had to special order the bolts.
 
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