residential pricing

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sparky59

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i haven't did any residential wiring lately. i wanted to get some feedback about pricing from some of you guys. On a 3000 sq. ft. single story home with a 200 amp service. What would you charge per sq. ft? What do you charge extra for can lights and ceiling fans. And do you charge the same sq ft price for the garage and screened in porch?
 
I would charge $0.00 per sq. ft ....I also would not bid a job on a sq.ft basis.

If the extras are discussed and finalized before we start, the price(per item)is the same as if the items were on the original estimate.

If the extras come after we've started....the price can only go up ~ nothing like adding an outlet onto an already tiled backsplash to give the customer some heart failure.
 
I charge by the opening and then 10.00$ per amp on the service, cans lights are priced at markup cost. Range,HWH, dryer and HVAC are priced at 125.00$ each plus wire cost/length.Add it all up and add 25%
 
celtic said:
I would charge $0.00 per sq. ft ....I also would not bid a job on a sq.ft basis.

If the extras are discussed and finalized before we start, the price(per item)is the same as if the items were on the original estimate.

If the extras come after we've started....the price can only go up ~ nothing like adding an outlet onto an already tiled backsplash to give the customer some heart failure.
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Square ft pricing not for electrical, when have you last purchased a square foot of cable, or a sq ft of any electrical device, or when have you ran cables by the square foot?

GC's are use to dealing with sg ft prices for material that is purchased and installed by the square, for example roofing material.

Electrical wiring, is a planned run, of cables, and devices, each run being different in circuit size, and layout.

Back somewhere is the 50's when production housing became popular, developers would plan a home wiring job then give it a Sq Ft value, they controlled every area of the project, which gave them price control.

The practice continued thru the years, into large projects, like condo's and townhouses, they were planned and priced by developers and given a sq ft value, over the years, they trainned contractors to accept the value prices, and the low end bidders accepted this practice for years, I your intent is to earn a modest profit on the jobs then a custom pricing system would be a better plan. Price by the piece, and assemble the project.
 
pricing 3000 sq ft

pricing 3000 sq ft

Depends on the area....Here in NJ it would depend on all the extras, who is responsible for purchase...Id you as the EC get all the extras Iwould say the base wiring would be 15 to 18k with out the extra sheet, or before extras. Extras mean hihats vs basic lighting home automation,cable jacks phone, internet.....basic switches, covers...all these are value + items....
 
If I could buy my wire, boxes, breakers, conduit, panels, ground rods, devices, coverplates, can lights, trims, bulbs, and everything else by the square foot, I would be happy to price my work by the square foot.
 
I never cut myself short. :grin:

I'll say this about square foot pricing:

Suppose you were asked to bid on two commercial projects, both the same layout (say, they were both 10,000 ft? clothing stores and both were the same store name). Would you bid them the same price if the ceiling in one location was at 8 feet, and the other store's ceiling was at 20 feet?
 
When everybody is against sqft pricing, is it just set price or sqft plus extras. I have a sqft price, but it is a minimum basis. By the time extra outlets and and circuits are added in there is quite a difference.
 
360Youth said:
I have a sqft price, but it is a minimum basis.
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Ok, I'll play.... 2 - 2500 sq. ft homes

#1 is a ranch with 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, gas heat and cooking, uses well water and has a septic. 1 AC unit and AHU

#2 is a 2-story, 4 bedroom, 2.5bth, electric heat and cooking, city water and sewer. 2 AC units and AHUs (1 for each floor).

Same price?
 
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charge 9 dollars a square foot charge 150 dollars per can light 125 per outlet up to 40 feet 220 volt lines charge 250 dollars up to 40 feet simple you just have to be hungry to work.
 
Eddie o 123 said:
charge 9 dollars a square foot charge 150 dollars per can light 125 per outlet up to 40 feet 220 volt lines charge 250 dollars up to 40 feet simple you just have to be hungry to work.
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Same sq. ft price for 2 similar homes with different kitchen layouts?

#1...40 linear ft. of counter top
#2...40 linear ft. of countertop w/undercabinet lighting, and dedicated lines for MW and refrig?
 
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