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guggemos

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I am upgrading residential multifamily dwelling units. The upgrade is to the service from the weatherhead, the meter and main breaker and feeder to a new subpanel inside the dwelling unit. Does anything inside the unit have to be upgraded? (It was built in 1941, so it is not ground wire type receptacles and no GFCIs.
 
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vanwalker

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YOU WILL HAVE TO CONTACT YOUR LOCAL AREA(AHJ) GEO
if you have no code enforcement, then nothing needs to be enforced. there is property maintenance code that set these standards which gets addressed when and if a permit is pulled.

[ April 08, 2003, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: vanwalker ]
 
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guggemos

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It originally was a government housing project during WWII and built to code at the time, but since then a variety of alterations have taken place,not all of which may be CODE. I can't find any NEC requirement that states I shall replace current non-GFCI receptacles in kitchen or install additional, for example.
 
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bennie

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I don't know of anything that makes it mandatory to make any changes.

This project is almost as old as me. My insulation is cracking, breaking down, and leaking.

There should be job specs. to set parameters of work required.

I am familiar with this type of construction. This sounds like El Toro MCAS, NAMAR Housing.

These units were minimum wiring. Naturally I would suggest replacing everything, but I am not paying for it.
 
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luke warmwater

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There could be local codes requiring everything to be upgraded. Here, if you are upgrading the service, then only the service equipment would have to be done.
One jurisdiction we work in has a "tenant minimum living standards" code. Once you upgrade the service, each unit has to be brought up to Code. The owner of the property wasn't happy, but he was stuck. The building had fuse panels, and his insurance carrier was not going to renew his policy unless he upgraded the system to circut breakers. He also couldn't find another insurance carrier to switch to that would accept the fuse system, so he had to upgrade. He then found out that he would have to have all units brought up to code. So he has to have a minimum of (2) small appliance circuts for Kitchen countertop, 3-ways added, AFCI breakers, etc...
 
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a.wayne3@verizon.net

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Luke are you saying that if you do a simple service upgrade no other circuits touched, then all the circuits must meet new codes?????????
 
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