Responsible
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bphgravity
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Re: Responsible
Im not sure I understand the question.
This type of issue is really not in the scope of the NEC. If you mean, are you responsible to perform all work to at least the minimum code standards, then the answer is yes.
But if you mean, yourself, a few helpers, and a journeyman are on a job, who is responsible? This is complicated. Some jurisdictions have licensd to unlicensed ratios, others do not.
In a court of law, all persons related to the job, whether you touched the particular issue questioned or not can be named. Generally, the master license or contractor license holder is the one who becomes liable and responsible.
Ultimately, ever electrician is reposnible for themselves regardless what your boss or anyone else says or does.
Can you be more speicific with your question?
Im not sure I understand the question.
This type of issue is really not in the scope of the NEC. If you mean, are you responsible to perform all work to at least the minimum code standards, then the answer is yes.
But if you mean, yourself, a few helpers, and a journeyman are on a job, who is responsible? This is complicated. Some jurisdictions have licensd to unlicensed ratios, others do not.
In a court of law, all persons related to the job, whether you touched the particular issue questioned or not can be named. Generally, the master license or contractor license holder is the one who becomes liable and responsible.
Ultimately, ever electrician is reposnible for themselves regardless what your boss or anyone else says or does.
Can you be more speicific with your question?
hurk27
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- Portage, Indiana NEC: 2008
Re: Responsible
No but the courts sure will if somthing goes wrong.
No but the courts sure will if somthing goes wrong.
pierre
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- Westchester County, New York
Re: Responsible
Kim
If I understand your question correctly, the NEC do not say who is ultimately suppose to perform this work (other than QUALIFIED PERSONS).This responsibility falls to the Local Jurisdiction. Whatever the law or ordinance is in that area dictates who can perform electrical work.
This can range from electricians
Such as you ask who did this work? 'my brother's sister's boyfriend's cousin's uncle's friend, his great grandfather on his mother's side once saw someone do some electrical work once'.
Pierre
Kim
If I understand your question correctly, the NEC do not say who is ultimately suppose to perform this work (other than QUALIFIED PERSONS).This responsibility falls to the Local Jurisdiction. Whatever the law or ordinance is in that area dictates who can perform electrical work.
This can range from electricians
Such as you ask who did this work? 'my brother's sister's boyfriend's cousin's uncle's friend, his great grandfather on his mother's side once saw someone do some electrical work once'.
Pierre
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- Lockport, IL
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
Re: Responsible
The game is changed a bit if the project was designed, and the plans sealed, by a Licensed Professional Engineer. But what is not commonly understood in our industry is the legal meaning of the "seal." It does not mean, as may be commonly thought, that the engineer is certifying that the job was designed to applicable codes and standards, or that everything is correct and proper. The seal and signature mean one thing, and one thing only: ?This work was performed by me, or under my supervision.? Doesn?t this sound like, ?The lawsuit ends here?? I think it does, and I think it should. Our role as PEs is to safeguard the health and safety of the public. That role is shared by the electricians who perform the installation work and by the Inspectors who verify code compliance. Who is ?responsible?? We all are.
The game is changed a bit if the project was designed, and the plans sealed, by a Licensed Professional Engineer. But what is not commonly understood in our industry is the legal meaning of the "seal." It does not mean, as may be commonly thought, that the engineer is certifying that the job was designed to applicable codes and standards, or that everything is correct and proper. The seal and signature mean one thing, and one thing only: ?This work was performed by me, or under my supervision.? Doesn?t this sound like, ?The lawsuit ends here?? I think it does, and I think it should. Our role as PEs is to safeguard the health and safety of the public. That role is shared by the electricians who perform the installation work and by the Inspectors who verify code compliance. Who is ?responsible?? We all are.
sparkmantoo
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Re: Responsible
in our jurisdiction it is the individual or company who obtains the permit who is responsible, but that doesn't give anyone the right to do sub-standard work. homeowners can pull a permit to do electrical work, but they are also required to be code compliant, which i will glady offer my professional opinion for a minor fee. questions are free, it's the answers that will cost you.
in our jurisdiction it is the individual or company who obtains the permit who is responsible, but that doesn't give anyone the right to do sub-standard work. homeowners can pull a permit to do electrical work, but they are also required to be code compliant, which i will glady offer my professional opinion for a minor fee. questions are free, it's the answers that will cost you.
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