Rj-11

[jayaredee]

I once saw on a job, a new type of RJ-11 connector...the holes that you insert the wires into went all the way through the connector so that the wires would stick out the other side and you could look at them and see if they were in the right order before you crimp....then the crimper (went with the connector) would trim the wires flush at the same time as it crimped...

Anyways, I can't remember the brand and now (after my guys jacked 10 connections on one job) I'm really thinking it could help. Has anyone seen/heard of this? know where I can get it?

Thanks

 

[active1]

Try looking at the leviton ones.

 

[wireguru]

Ive seen them for RJ45 its called easy RJ45 or RJ45-EZ or something like that.

I dont like them. The plugs are expensive, and appear ametureish when used. My thought is, that if you cannot properly install an RJ45 connector without using the one with the holes in the end, you have no business doing it professionally.

 

[brantmacga]

i've seen them and i don't like them either.

i like the leviton rj-45's w/ the sled that separates the pairs. it makes untwisting them easier.

 

[electricguy]

I was given a tip awhile ago, take a new rj11 pull out the metal tabs and use this for a jig to see if the wires line up pull out of the jig rg11, and insert wires into a new rj 11 and crimp.

 

[wireguru]

a tip taught to me by a telco guy, was to strip the cable long, like 2in; untwist all the pairs; run each pair over the handle of your klein scissors or UTP stripper while pinching with your thumb (this makes the wires perfectly straight); alight the wires in the proper order for whatever youre doing; pinch the jacket right at the end to hold the wires in place; trim to length and insert into connector.

took me a couple tries to get good, now I can install an rj45 on a cat5 from unstripped cable to crimped connector in 30-45 seconds and have it look as good as one on a factory made patch cable

I can post a series of pictures of what to do later if someone really needs it

 

[electricguy]

I was given a tip awhile ago, take a new rj11 pull out the metal tabs and use this for a jig to see if the wires line up pull out of the jig rg11, and insert wires into a new rj 11 and crimp.

oops that info was for a RJ45 guess it would work for RJ11 too

 

[LarryFine]

took me a couple tries to get good, now I can install an rj45 on a cat5 from unstripped cable to crimped connector in 30-45 seconds and have it look as good as one on a factory made patch cable.

Great if looks are paramount. As they say, the devil is in the details, of course: it has to perform well, too.

It's still important to maintain the twists properly to, at worst, 1/2" from the terminals; I strive for 1/4".

 

[brantmacga]

Great if looks are paramount. As they say, the devil is in the details, of course: it has to perform well, too.

It's still important to maintain the twists properly to, at worst, 1/2" from the terminals; I strive for 1/4".

seems like it would be almost impossible to get more than 1/2" untwisted while fitting a modular plug, unless you untwist them inside the jacket.

 

[LarryFine]

seems like it would be almost impossible to get more than 1/2" untwisted while fitting a modular plug, unless you untwist them inside the jacket.

You're presuming that everyone knows that the jacket is supposed to extend into the plug. The same is true for jacks, too.

Not unlike power work, it's important to understand the "why's" of what we do, as well as the "how's," in order to do it well.

 

[pbeasley]

a tip taught to me by a telco guy, was to strip the cable long, like 2in; untwist all the pairs; run each pair over the handle of your klein scissors or UTP stripper while pinching with your thumb (this makes the wires perfectly straight); alight the wires in the proper order for whatever youre doing; pinch the jacket right at the end to hold the wires in place; trim to length and insert into connector.

took me a couple tries to get good, now I can install an rj45 on a cat5 from unstripped cable to crimped connector in 30-45 seconds and have it look as good as one on a factory made patch cable

I can post a series of pictures of what to do later if someone really needs it

that's impressive. I am content with 2-3 minutes when I have to do them... the RJ-45 EZ gets me down to 50 seconds though.
In my line of work RJ45's are getting used for alot more than Ethernet. One thing I do like about the RJ45-EZ connectors... the exposed conductors make it alot easier to get a multi-tester onto.

 

[George Stolz]

My thought is, that if you cannot properly install an RJ45 connector without using the one with the holes in the end, you have no business doing it professionally.

I don't think it's a matter of "can't do it without", it's a matter of the job being done right every time without trying to peer through the connector. I was a skeptic too, but I will be getting one of these myself soon. It's quicker and more accurate.

The plugs are expensive, and appear ametureish when used.

I think they both look the same when plugged in.

 

[wireguru]

nevermind........................................

 

[danickstr]

so few computer systems can actually handle the max theoretical from a cat 5e cable, that you can relax about the wrapping a bit. But for those who love the cutting edge, here is the Siemon spec for their cat 7 10gigabit wiring system.

http://www.siemon.com/us/category7/

Ten gigabits per second would transfer most people's entire hard drive in under a minute, which is a bit silly, if a server even existed that could handle it (well, they cost 2k). Or an HD movie in 2 seconds (2GByte). Gosh, I really hate to wait.

 

[wireguru]

10G over copper works in short distances with cat6, and 330M over cat6A

 

[George Stolz]

Gosh, I really hate to wait.

Interesting this should come up, I had to go scouting for prices on some CAT-6A to try to meet the demands of a customer's proposed system in their house - you never know what people will come up with next.

The idea is 1 or 2 receivers funneling HDTV to multiple TVs apiece in a new home. $6.34/ft is a little rich for my blood (ultimately around $750 in materials alone for a 200' run), but if the customer insists on it we will see what we can do for them.