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Riograndeelectric

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On a basement finsh I will be starting on the framers are installing the 2x4 studs on the flate side like furring strips.
in order to support the Romex cable horizontally and not have to drill out the studs I am having the framers use 2 studs for each vertical member and leave a space at 48" off the floor about 2" wide. to run horizontal

since the 2x4 are layed flat you can not get the 1 1/2 inches of set back from the front of the drywall and is this code compliant ?

the reason for laying the 2x4 flat the room is very narrow only 10 foot wide so the HO does not want to loose valuble wall space by having the full 2x4
 
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Riograndeelectric said:
On a basement finsh I will be starting on the framers are installing the 2x4 studs on the flate side like furring strips.
in order to support the Romex cable horizontally and not have to drill out the studs I am having the framers use 2 studs for each vertical member and leave a space at 48" off the floor about 2" wide. to run horizontal

since the 2x4 are layed flat you can not get the 1 1/2 inches of set back from the front of the drywall and is this code compliant ?

the reason for laying the 2x4 flat the room is very narrow only 10 foot wide so the HO does not want to loose valuble wall space by having the full 2x4
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Whether that violates the letter of the code or not (300.4), it is close to violating the intent: The nearest edge of the cable should be 1-1/4" from the structure likely to be penetrated by nails or screws.
Any 14/3 or 12/3 will probably be within that distance, maybe flat cables too.

I'd put in some sleeves of EMT, snap on bushings on each or put 4 sq covers over the 2" gaps.
 
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Riograndeelectric

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Volta said:
Whether that violates the letter of the code or not (300.4), it is close to violating the intent: The nearest edge of the cable should be 1-1/4" from the structure likely to be penetrated by nails or screws.
Any 14/3 or 12/3 will probably be within that distance, maybe flat cables too.

I'd put in some sleeves of EMT, snap on bushings on each or put 4 sq covers over the 2" gaps.
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I will be using nail plates over the notches but am wondering also about the vertical supporting on the 2x4 flat side not being the 1/1/4 inches set back.
 
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Riograndeelectric said:
the reason for laying the 2x4 flat the room is very narrow only 10 foot wide so the HO does not want to loose valuble wall space by having the full 2x4
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I always find this amusing. 10 foot of wall and loosing another 2 " is a problem. I would rather loose the 2" and get more insulation in the walls and make life easier for everyone else.
 
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A/A Fuel GTX said:
Virginia Larry, What is a Colorado Jim?
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~Shado~

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Rio...don't know what city the basement is in, but, I have never been tagged on an inspection using Colo Jims, even under inspector Sharp!

I actually prefer them over stakkits.

Good Luck...
 
daleuger

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My first thought is why go horizontal through the walls why not just go up to the ceiling and bore the floor joist?
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I was thinking that too. I've never wired houses from scratch but I have done considerable wood frame commerical, and that was something that was drilled in my head over and over and over again. Then after that they took it out and beat you about the head and shoulders with it. Although they seem to contradict that when they do metal frame commerical where the studs even have nice convenient holes in them just for the purpose of slipping MC/Conduit through.....hmmmm:-?
 
LarryFine

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daleuger said:
Although they seem to contradict that when they do metal frame commerical where the studs even have nice convenient holes in them just for the purpose of slipping MC/Conduit through.....hmmmm:-?
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Well, if wood studs came pre-drilled, I'm sure more horizontal wiring would be done. :cool:
 
steelersman

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Colorado Jims are good for supports right above your box. And kick plates are good for covering the gap between the 2 studs that you are running your wires through. This is the way to go. And I don't blame them for wanting to lay the studs flat. This actually gains 4 inches, not 2 as was stated by someone earlier. Yes it makes for more work but it also makes for more finished space and more room. Those 4 inches may be more valuable than one may realize!
 
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Riograndeelectric

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~Shado~ said:
Rio...don't know what city the basement is in, but, I have never been tagged on an inspection using Colo Jims, even under inspector Sharp!

I actually prefer them over stakkits.

Good Luck...
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job is in Denver. I forgot about the Colorado jims being listed for romex. this will work nicely with the studs layed flat as compared to stakits.
 
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