Romex Labor Units

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markt

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I was wondering if anyone has an idea of the labor units for the installation of romex, I am looking in the NECA manual of labor units but they seem very high, they are between 35-40 hours per 1000 installed> I am currently estimating the following for residential work:

12-2 11M
12-3 12M
14-2 11M
14-2 12M
10-2-13M

I just wanted to get anyones input on their estimating units, (if you can share)

Thanks in advance
Mark T
 
How do you get the measurements of wire your refering to?
Are you just installing miles of wire? what is the job?
I thought most people charge per device & the romex installation is part of the device unit rate.
I wouldn't over "anal"ize the estimating part. You'll price yourself out of the job.
 
No, I am estimating residential housing. We use a hand estimate for each house. I am using our company bid sheets. I just wanted to get everyones opinion on how long it would take to install 1000' of romex including all drilling and supports in wood studs.

Mark T
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In a good size basement I will install 1000'-1500' of 14-2 wire and it would take 2 men 8-16 hours. this is a pretty good estimate so I would say 14-2 1000' installed is 16 man hours. But I charge by device like others and it really can depend on the job some homes are really open and others are cut up and more time demanding running many shorter lengths takes longer than running longer lengths.
 
Re: Romex Labor Units

markt,

Interesting ???

14/2rx

RSM=2.963hrs/100lf

NEE=6.00hrs/1000lf

Wonder where "they" get these numbers. Wouldn't mind seeing the raw data they use to develop their numbers.

In any event, my actual numbers end up to be about 1/2hr/outlet +/- (from rough to final, incl all components).

Using 20lf avg runs NEE comes out to be most accurate.

Maybe WE ought to be developing estimating data bases for sale.

Bob
 
From an old estimating manual that I've used for years for commercial work (labor units are per foot :

The work is divided into 3 levels of difficulty:
Minimum Medium Maximum
14/2: .012 .015 .018
12/2: .012 .015 .018
10/2: .012 .015 .018
14/3: .012 .015 .018
12/3: .012 .015 .018
10/3: .012 .015 .018

This manual is really aimed at commercial work, not residential. It is normally pretty close when I am bidding on a commercial project. But as with any manual, you have to "factor" the labor units based on who you're working with/for, the building structure design, job conditions, electrical density, and all of those other intangible job factors that only experience will teach you.

I'd say that the "book" labor is pretty accurate for 12/2. It's probably a little high for #14, and a little low for #10 and for the 3 conductor + ground romex.

BX style cable is listed in this manual at:

Minimum Medium Maximum
14/2: .012 .015 .018
12/2: .015 .019 .023
10/2: .018 .023 .027
14/3: .018 .023 .027
12/3: .021 .026 .032
10/3: .024 .030 .036

Does anyone have any opinion on those labor units?
 
romex man hours is a bad way to estimate res. how many man hours pre 1000 foot. is like saying how long dose it take to drive 10 miles. depends city, interstate, contry road, I can pull 10 100' home runs in a truss basement in 1 hour, I have spent 1/2 to get 10' up through a log wall.
 
wyatt2 said:
romex man hours is a bad way to estimate res. how many man hours pre 1000 foot. is like saying how long dose it take to drive 10 miles. depends city, interstate, contry road, I can pull 10 100' home runs in a truss basement in 1 hour, I have spent 1/2 to get 10' up through a log wall.

If you went through that log wall in 1/2 hour, you are good or they were soft logs. When I did that it was more like 4 hours.
 
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