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Romex That Has Been Stripped Out. Is What Kind Of Wire. I Had An Inspecter Turn Me Down 4 Having 8/3 Romex That Was Srtiped Out In A Temp Pole. I Know I Cant Use */3 As A Service Int. Cond. But If It Is Striped Out Is Is No Longer Romex Right. Ive Built Hundreds Of Temp Poles All The Same Way.
 
Although it is hard to swallow, the inspector is right (Let it be known I am not supporting his decision) and 310.11 is the violation.

Roger
 
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In the "for what it's worth" department, I agree with 310.11(B)(2). I've seen countless failures where "electricians" would strip "romex" and pull it in to Wiremold and later it would short out.

I've seen failures where stripped "romex" was placed in 1/2 and 3/4" conduit on basement walls and shorted out, too.

Glad to hear that the inspector is doing his/her job. :smile:
 
Not going to argue the code violation but am curious to know how these wires are going to short out when sitting immoble in a conduit unless they were damaged during installation.
 
iaov said:
Not going to argue the code violation but am curious to know how these wires are going to short out when sitting immoble in a conduit unless they were damaged during installation.
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Damage occurs during installation due to insufficient insulation/covering and shows up later on....not always at first power up. My experience. May not be yours, though. :smile:
 
wbalsam1 said:
Damage occurs during installation due to insufficient insulation/covering and shows up later on....not always at first power up. My experience. May not be yours, though. :smile:
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I don't have a hard time buying that, but you are correct, I haven't seen much of it. What I have seen, the initial damage from the stripping/pulling was fairly obvious.
 
wbalsam1 said:
In the "for what it's worth" department, I agree with 310.11(B)(2). I've seen countless failures where "electricians" would strip "romex" and pull it in to Wiremold and later it would short out.

I've seen failures where stripped "romex" was placed in 1/2 and 3/4" conduit on basement walls and shorted out, too.

Glad to hear that the inspector is doing his/her job. :smile:
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So you bring along rolls of THHN to do your tails in the boxes on Romex jobs, or do you use the conductors harvested out of scrap romex? Maybe you see what I'm getting at.
 
mdshunk said:
So you bring along rolls of THHN to do your tails in the boxes on Romex jobs, or do you use the conductors harvested out of scrap romex? Maybe you see what I'm getting at.
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I never gave that a thought,your right its unmarked and is a violation.But never had a tag over it.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
I never gave that a thought,your right its unmarked and is a violation.
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I disagree, the cable was marked by the manufacturer.

Or are the conductors inside a panel in violation because they are no longer marked?
 
ZAKPOWERHOUSE said:
Romex That Has Been Stripped Out. Is What Kind Of Wire. I Had An Inspecter Turn Me Down 4 Having 8/3 Romex That Was Srtiped Out In A Temp Pole. I Know I Cant Use */3 As A Service Int. Cond. But If It Is Striped Out Is Is No Longer Romex Right. Ive Built Hundreds Of Temp Poles All The Same Way.
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Was this installed in conduit on a temp pole? As in, outside?
In that case, that is a wet location, and, as far as I know, the conductors inside Romex are not "W" rated.
 
iwire said:
I disagree, the cable was marked by the manufacturer.

Or are the conductors inside a panel in violation because they are no longer marked?
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I have been told by inspectors that anytime NM is used, say in a panel, there must be a portion of the sheathing that is visible so that it can be identified as NM.
 
360Youth said:
I have been told by inspectors that anytime NM is used, say in a panel, there must be a portion of the sheathing that is visible so that it can be identified as NM.
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I'd say that a portion of the sheath must be visible so the cable clamp can grip it.
 
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good point,how about conductors within J-BOX?
 
This subject brings up a certain point. If I strip some romex and use the bare copper equipment bonding wire that comes with the romex for a bonding jumper at a receptacle, then following the logic of the thread, that bare wire has no identifying means on it either and therefore is not allowed
 
macmikeman said:
This subject brings up a certain point. If I strip some romex and use the bare copper equipment bonding wire that comes with the romex for a bonding jumper at a receptacle, then following the logic of the thread, that bare wire has no identifying means on it either and therefore is not allowed
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SO does that make the #8 bare copper wire I use to go from panel to rod not allowed either? There are no markings on it. since it is allowed, what if I used the bare #8 out of some 2/3 romex as a bonding jumper?

~Matt
 
Mike and Matt, see 310.11(B)(1) thru (3), notice bare conductors are not included.

Roger
 
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LarryFine said:
I'd say that a portion of the sheath must be visible so the cable clamp can grip it.
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If I remember right the discussion was more in regards to romex used in a raceway and whether or not it could be stripped out of the sheathing. But I have had inspectors want to know the size of a particular romex and "disapprove" of not being able to readily identify the size. This was back in the pre-color-coded sheathing days.

Minuteman said:
Did the inspector site a code reference for the violation?
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This inspector loves to see listings on eveything. He always refers to those sections of the code that talk about installing per manufacture listing and identification. (No, I do not have a speciffic code he referenced. It was a discussion that came up during classroom time and not in the field.) His jurisdiction is now looking for a UL listing on ground rods.
 
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