SABC and tiny kitchen

[dirtynails]

I have a tiny kitchen with 2 counter outlets, a gas range, MW/hood and fridge. No disposal. Fridge is on it's own circuit, but it sounds like it's not OK to use the range & MW circuit for one of the counter outlets. I can use one of the counter circuits for the one wall outlet in the room, but nothing else since there's no dining room or pantry. Correct? Seems silly to have 2 single outlets each with a 20A circuit, but I guess it is what it is.

 

[Buck Parrish]

You're correct, but the MW should be on it's own circuit since it is fastened in place. The gas oven igniter is allowed on the SABC but not the microwave, ...210.52 - 2 exception 2

 

[dirtynails]

You're correct, but at least the gas oven igniter is allowed on the SABC ...210.52 - 2 exception 2

Thanks. Not worth it since you can just go straight down from the MW to the range outlet.

 

[augie47]

The MW/hood is required to be dedicated per 422.16, as Buck notes the gas range igniter could be on one of the S/A circuits as can the frige.

 

[dirtynails]

The MW/hood is required to be dedicated per 422.16, as Buck notes the gas range igniter could be on one of the S/A circuits as can the frige.

So you can't put the igniter on that circuit? Seems dumb, that's such a low load. Putting the fridge on a SABC seems even dumber.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

So you can't put the igniter on that circuit? Seems dumb, that's such a low load. Putting the fridge on a SABC seems even dumber.

The refrigerator is part of the small appliance branch circuit.

 

[drcampbell]

... Seems silly to have 2 single outlets each with a 20A circuit ...

Cooking appliances consume great gobs of power, and even in a tiny kitchen, it's not inconceivable that there could be several in use simultaneously. If it still seems silly, put in two-gang boxes.

 

[dirtynails]

Cooking appliances consume great gobs of power

All the more reason allowing the fridge to be on a SABC seems stupid.

 

[tom baker]

All the more reason allowing the fridge to be on a SABC seems stupid.

Make proposal to change this for the 2026 NEC. You will be able to dub it a public input this fall

 

[dirtynails]

Make proposal to change this for the 2026 NEC. You will be able to dub it a public input this fall

Thanks, but I've got plenty of windmills in my sights already, just ask my wife!

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I can't tell you how many rental apartments I see where there are microwaves, coffee machines, toaster ovens, etc all plugged into one circuit. In most cases there is another circuit but the tenants don't know about it. They just need to move one appliance like the mw to another spot on the counter.

My point is that small kitchens can use a lot of power.

 

[Fred B]

I can't tell you how many rental apartments I see where there are microwaves, coffee machines, toaster ovens, etc all plugged into one circuit.

Most people even if a small kitchen still want to use all the same gadgets and will to use them and put in splitters do get enough space.

In most cases there is another circuit but the tenants don't know about it. They just need to move one appliance like the mw to another spot on the counter.

My point is that small kitchens can use a lot of power.

That is why I when I do a kitchen I will not put all one circuit receptacles in a row, will alternate the receptacle circuits doing what I call leap froging. Sure it's a little more wire but less overloading potential.