Safe Grounding

[DAVIDGRRUDZINSKI]

Is It Proper To Bond The Panel Ground To The Gas Meter? Am I The Only One Who Sees This As Wrong?

 

[hillbilly]

Got a Electrical Code book?

steve

 

[DAVIDGRRUDZINSKI]

I Am A Home Inspector And Have Never Had A Need For One As I Am Pretty Good About Codes But I Am Going To Get One Today. I Dont Think This Issue Is Common But Isnt Grounding To An Gas Meter Unsafe Due To The Risk Of A Lightning Strike And The Resulting Spark?

 

[barbeer]

When you get that codebook or use this one.......
http://www.nfpa.org/freecodes/free_access_agreement.asp?id=7005SB&cookie%5Ftest=1

Take a look at 250.52(7)(B) and 250.104(B).

 

[DAVIDGRRUDZINSKI]

Grounding Safety

Grounding Safety

I Did An Inspection On A Home For Sale And The Current Owner Did Some Electric Work Himself. He Refuses To Accept The Fact That It Is Not Grandfathered In And Has To Add Gfci To The Outside Pool And Outlets. He Aslo Doesnt Think It Is Wrong To Add A Sub Panel Rated At 100 Amps That Is Wired With 40 Amp Wire, And A 60 Amp Main Disconnect.

 

[crossman]

Re: NEC

I Am A Home Inspector And Have Never Had A Need For One

I generally don't make comments like this, but I just don't get it.:-?

 

[don_resqcapt19]

David,

Is It Proper To Bond The Panel Ground To The Gas Meter?

Both the NEC and the Fuel Gas Code require a bonding connection to the gas piping system.

He Aslo Doesnt Think It Is Wrong To Add A Sub Panel Rated At 100 Amps That Is Wired With 40 Amp Wire, And A 60 Amp Main Disconnect.

It might not be! What is the rating of the feeder breaker at the souce?

I Am A Home Inspector And Have Never Had A Need For One As I Am Pretty Good About Codes

The code is the safety standard that you should be inspecting to and without one, you can't inspect to it.
Don

 

[brian john]

David;

Think about it this way how would you not ground the gas line?

Furnace, stove, dryer air conditioner are all grounded through the branch circuit powering the equipment..grounded by default.


Also if it has not been mentioned DROP THE CAPS please...makes it difficult to read your post.

 

[DAVIDGRRUDZINSKI]

the home has no ground rod, the only source of ground is a panel bond to the gas meter. not the water pipes. in the event of a surge or lightning strike the current will go straight to the gas meter. also the sub-panel is fed from the main panel via 60 amp breaker on 40 amp wire to a sub panel that has a 100 amp main dis-connect . and finally the whole exterior electric supply to the pool, exterior plugs and lights around the pool are not gfci , but the owner (a lawyer) says the house is up to code. i disagree. what do you say?

 

[crossman]

but the owner (a lawyer) says the house is up to code. i disagree. what do you say?

Sounds like the lawyer is wrong. Write up the report noting the items you mentioned and there you are.

 

[LarryFine]

what do you say?

David, I'd say that, while your observations appear to be correct (what is "40 amp wire"?), I'm under the impression that your duty as a home inspector is to note deficiencies and make recommendations, but that you cannot enforce codes or laws, or compel anyone to make any changes.

Then the seller can either make changes, reduce the selling price, or dissolve the contract.

 

[cschmid]

David I think you are definitely outside of your training and the Lawyer knows it..So if you are really concerned about the installation you need to call the licensed Electrical inspector for that area and have a conversation with him..In Minnesota you need o pull a permit and have your electrical inspected even doing it yourself..Homeowners are not exempt from the law it was made easy enough for them to follow..I for one am glad you take a personal interest in your profession..yet In our state Home inspectors are not licensed by the state and are not able to enforce code violations..Home inspectors can only point out potential hazards and write a report on them for the perspective buyer..Then it is between buyer and seller to hash out the fine points or move on to another deal..