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tyreeinc

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Virginia
What is the qualifications or rules for people working in critical systems IBX buildings. Do you not have to have a license to work on or around live circuits? I am looking for NEC, OSHA, NFPA guidelines. If someone knows please help. We just started a electrical department and the person in charge of us has no electrical back ground or license and I am concerned for my safety from previous experiences.
 

iwire

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Massachusetts
Here is the biggie from OSHA

1910.333(a)(1)

"Deenergized parts." Live parts to which an employee may be exposed shall be deenergized before the employee works on or near them, unless the employer can demonstrate that deenergizing introduces additional or increased hazards or is infeasible due to equipment design or operational limitations. Live parts that operate at less than 50 volts to ground need not be deenergized if there will be no increased exposure to electrical burns or to explosion due to electric arcs.


Note 1: Examples of increased or additional hazards include interruption of life support equipment, deactivation of emergency alarm systems, shutdown of hazardous location ventilation equipment, or removal of illumination for an area.


Note 2: Examples of work that may be performed on or near energized circuit parts because of infeasibility due to equipment design or operational limitations include testing of electric circuits that can only be performed with the circuit energized and work on circuits that form an integral part of a continuous industrial process in a chemical plant that would otherwise need to be completely shut down in order to permit work on one circuit or piece of equipment.


Note 3: Work on or near deenergized parts is covered by paragraph (b) of this section.
 

bobsherwood

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Location
Dallas TX
You must also remember that YOU are responsible for your own safety. Do not let any one guide you into something that your not comforable with!
 

tyreeinc

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Location
Virginia
Thank you for the Information.

Thank you for the Information.

This company is not that concerned with safety and here you do it or get fired. Everyone walks on eggshells and management is afraid to say or do anything because they are scared they will tell you wrong and loose their job, and your job. They push it of on other engineers to protect themselves. If you quit it is very hard to find a job in this area.
 

iMuse97

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Location
Chicagoland
1. Training for working on energized equipment,
2. proper PPE, analysis of the risks involved in the task,
3. and a planned procedure for completing the task, and a
4. plan for what to do if an accident occurs
are all part of operating within a facility such as the one you describe.

The possibility for catastrophic damage to personnel and equipment
increases if any of these steps (and possibly others) are not followed.

Unfortunately, in industry a catastrophe usually happens before the
leaders of that segment of industry make changes.

Electricians (or engineers) dying has, also unfortunately, not been considered a catastrophe.
 

zog

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Location
Charlotte, NC
What is the qualifications or rules for people working in critical systems IBX buildings. Do you not have to have a license to work on or around live circuits? I am looking for NEC, OSHA, NFPA guidelines. If someone knows please help. We just started a electrical department and the person in charge of us has no electrical back ground or license and I am concerned for my safety from previous experiences.

Having a license has nothing to do with it. You may find some answers and good ammo here
http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=99114
 

WorkSafe

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Location
Moore, OK
This company is not that concerned with safety and here you do it or get fired. Everyone walks on eggshells and management is afraid to say or do anything because they are scared they will tell you wrong and loose their job, and your job. They push it of on other engineers to protect themselves. If you quit it is very hard to find a job in this area.

Might want to take a look at this, so you and your folks know your rights to work in a safe and healthy workplace. If your employer is ignoring your concerns, then you need to document this and take it too another level or find a employer who does actually care about you. Either way, the situation there needs to be corrected.

http://www.osha.gov/dep/oia/whistleblower/index.html
 
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