Tell you what, I am still kicking myself in the behind for not attending the Charlie Greer seminar the last time I went to Ft. Myers Fla to visit my mom. (held during that same couple of weeks). Thought about it but wasnt sure of my itenerary. Would have been a good way to write off the trip, and I am double sure I would have learned plenty. He holds electric sales seminars twice a year.http://contractingbusiness.com/news/cb_imp_45115/