Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

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A service lateral feeds an auxiliary gutter. There are two service disconnects mounted on top of the gutter. The service conductors are tapped in the gutter and feed each switch through a nipple. The feeder conductors from each switch are routed back into the service gutter through a separate nipple then out of the bottom of the gutter through raceways feeding remote panelboards. Does this violate 230.7?
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

So you consider an auxiliary gutter a raceway.
 
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Article 100 Raceway.
"An enclosed channel of metal or nonmetallic materials designed expressly for holding wires, cables , or busbars, with additional functions as permitted in this code. Raceways include, but are not limited to," ...

Yes I would consider that auxiliary gutters are raceways and need to conform to 230.7.
 
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According to the 2002 Analysis of Change from IAEI "The term "auxiliary gutter" is not recognized by the Code as a raceway. See Pg. 138.
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

I use to think they were raceways too, but now feel fairly postive that they are actually enclosures.

The FPN to 300.17 makes no mention of Article 366.
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

Not to sound rude but rather than debate the semantics of the word "raceway" I would think you would try to provide the safest installation possible. The intent of 230.7 is pretty clear.
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

Not to sound rude back, but if an auxiliary gutter is just an extension of an a enclosure, 230.7 would not apply as it not a raceway. You are correct that 230.7 is clear. What is not clear is the designation of an auxiliary gutter.
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

This is opinion and is to be accepted as my opinion only.
The hot gutter off a meter base is an extension of the meter base and should be treated as the meter base.
A gutter that is at the end of a feeder is an extension of the feeder and should be treated as part of the feeder.
Again this is only my opinion and yes I have a ?$$ hole too.

edited to say that it stinks also

[ February 23, 2005, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: jwelectric ]
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

I believe JTESTER answered this one. That installation is a violation, gutter,wireway
raceway,trough or otherwise. You guys are correct
in the ambiguity of this articles terminology.
 
Re: Service and feeder conductors in the same gutter?

Service conductors are often in the same gutter space with feeder and branch circuit conductors in service equipment enclosures. That being said, I agree with Jtester with regard to the intent of the code.
 
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