ruffneck1031
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mounting a 600amp disconnect on back of building.footer spilled over 16inches off wall.what is max.allowed disconnectto sit off wall?
service disconnect
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- Master Electrician
Re: service disconnect
If its a time and materials job as far as you can get away with. Seriously, the only NEC requirement is how it is fastened and "workmanship"
Can you knock out a section of the footer?
If its a time and materials job as far as you can get away with. Seriously, the only NEC requirement is how it is fastened and "workmanship"
Can you knock out a section of the footer?
ruffneck1031
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Re: service disconnect
Thank you Tom I was afraid someone would suggest the chisle.thanks again for reply.
Thank you Tom I was afraid someone would suggest the chisle.thanks again for reply.
pierre
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- Westchester County, New York
Re: service disconnect
I worked for a general foreman years ago who used to call me 'college boy'. His first job for me was to drill a hole for a conduit through a ten inch concrete foundation. After I was finished, I asked him what else he wanted. He made me drill another hole, BTW - he made me use a hammer and star drill to make these holes. It took me hours and a lot of sweat, but I did not complain and when I finished the second hole I asked him if he wanted me to do any more. He looked at me like I was crazy, being in the Union at the time, most guys would have given him he##, but I was taught by my father to always respect people. He is retired now , but we keep in touch once in awhile when he comes back from traveling. He still calls me 'college boy'.
I do not like to do that kind of work anymore, my weary bones ache too much.
Pierre
I worked for a general foreman years ago who used to call me 'college boy'. His first job for me was to drill a hole for a conduit through a ten inch concrete foundation. After I was finished, I asked him what else he wanted. He made me drill another hole, BTW - he made me use a hammer and star drill to make these holes. It took me hours and a lot of sweat, but I did not complain and when I finished the second hole I asked him if he wanted me to do any more. He looked at me like I was crazy, being in the Union at the time, most guys would have given him he##, but I was taught by my father to always respect people. He is retired now , but we keep in touch once in awhile when he comes back from traveling. He still calls me 'college boy'.
I do not like to do that kind of work anymore, my weary bones ache too much.
Pierre
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a.wayne3@verizon.net
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Re: service disconnect
Pierre it has been along time since i heard of anyone using a star drill,in 1973 fresh out of h.s. I got a job with an electrical contractor that was doing overhead service upgrades everyday in N.Y.C.,my job to unload the truck and grab the 2 1/2 " star drill and 10 lb hammer and drill a new hole through 18 ins." of foundation.I can tell you that after 6 months of this i was ready to quit,but one day we got to the job and my journeyman said well Iggy that was his name for me
since you put up with this for so long its time for you to learn,and he taught me alot over the next 3 years with him.Point being....Helpers nowdays are so used to using a chipping hammer that they would die if they had to use a star drill :roll:
Pierre it has been along time since i heard of anyone using a star drill,in 1973 fresh out of h.s. I got a job with an electrical contractor that was doing overhead service upgrades everyday in N.Y.C.,my job to unload the truck and grab the 2 1/2 " star drill and 10 lb hammer and drill a new hole through 18 ins." of foundation.I can tell you that after 6 months of this i was ready to quit,but one day we got to the job and my journeyman said well Iggy that was his name for me
since you put up with this for so long its time for you to learn,and he taught me alot over the next 3 years with him.Point being....Helpers nowdays are so used to using a chipping hammer that they would die if they had to use a star drill :roll:
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Re: service disconnect
Originally posted by a.wayne3@verizon.net:
Helpers nowadays are so used to using a chipping hammer that they would die if they had to use a star drill
pierre
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- Westchester County, New York
Re: service disconnect
When I was 'young' in the trade, I was two years out of college. That is why they called me 'college boy'. The 'old timers' didn't think I was 'tough enough' to be in the trade, that is why I had to prove myself. My father was a small hard working contractor and I had to work for him. No other job after working for him was ever as hard, so there were no complaints from me, and that helped in the beginning. As a matter of fact, I usually did the work others would not do. It was not fun; muddy, wet, dirty, smelly, hot, cold, you get the picture. On one job, I was on the 17th floor of an open construction building and it was windy and so cold I am still frozen today. Across the street was another office tower and the office workers put a sign in the window stating how warm and comfortable they were. I found some cardboard and wrote my own sign: Yea, but I make twice as much money as you do!! They took their sign down.
Talk about job scars, that would make an interesting thread.
Here is the story of my first day on the job.
I was in the union and I had to report to the G.E. job WOW!! I thought I was it. I arrived on the job and it was a big construction site, YE HA!
I found the general forman and told him I was the electrical apprentice and what should I do. He said that there were 44 guys on the job and I was to get coffee. I could not believe it, so I told him - maybe you didn't hear me, I am the electrical apprentice on the job. He said go get coffee, I quit right there. My father inlaw was the Chief Electrical Inspector and when I told him he flipped out. To make a long story short, my next job was a big IBM jobsite, and when I met the general foreman and told him I was the new apprentice, he said, "there are 68 guys on the job, go for coffee". Guess what I did for the next month?
Pierre
When I was 'young' in the trade, I was two years out of college. That is why they called me 'college boy'. The 'old timers' didn't think I was 'tough enough' to be in the trade, that is why I had to prove myself. My father was a small hard working contractor and I had to work for him. No other job after working for him was ever as hard, so there were no complaints from me, and that helped in the beginning. As a matter of fact, I usually did the work others would not do. It was not fun; muddy, wet, dirty, smelly, hot, cold, you get the picture. On one job, I was on the 17th floor of an open construction building and it was windy and so cold I am still frozen today. Across the street was another office tower and the office workers put a sign in the window stating how warm and comfortable they were. I found some cardboard and wrote my own sign: Yea, but I make twice as much money as you do!! They took their sign down.
Talk about job scars, that would make an interesting thread.
Here is the story of my first day on the job.
I was in the union and I had to report to the G.E. job WOW!! I thought I was it. I arrived on the job and it was a big construction site, YE HA!
I found the general forman and told him I was the electrical apprentice and what should I do. He said that there were 44 guys on the job and I was to get coffee. I could not believe it, so I told him - maybe you didn't hear me, I am the electrical apprentice on the job. He said go get coffee, I quit right there. My father inlaw was the Chief Electrical Inspector and when I told him he flipped out. To make a long story short, my next job was a big IBM jobsite, and when I met the general foreman and told him I was the new apprentice, he said, "there are 68 guys on the job, go for coffee". Guess what I did for the next month?
Pierre
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- Massachusetts
Re: service disconnect
I had a helper scratching in some ground grid conductors, he only needed to get these 6" down into the gravel as the grade would later be raised.
His question to me was why do I have the lowest paid guy doing the most "work"?
I guess he figured I should waste high paid, talented electricians on a shovel when there was plenty of real electric work to do.
I had no idea how to respond to this, what world did he grow up in, he since moved to Sweden to live on their unemployment. :roll:
Bob
I had a helper scratching in some ground grid conductors, he only needed to get these 6" down into the gravel as the grade would later be raised.
His question to me was why do I have the lowest paid guy doing the most "work"?
I guess he figured I should waste high paid, talented electricians on a shovel when there was plenty of real electric work to do.
I had no idea how to respond to this, what world did he grow up in, he since moved to Sweden to live on their unemployment. :roll:
Bob
jerod
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- California
Re: service disconnect
sledge and star drill stories have been around a long time. my little brother had this happen to him twenty years ago when he started out. first day on the job he was handed the dreaded hand tools for 12 inch work. he did not get very far and i think they were about ready give him his check at lunch. he left for lunch and came back with a rented hilti and completed the job. the next day he was working with a journeyman. it didn't take him long to figure it out.
sledge and star drill stories have been around a long time. my little brother had this happen to him twenty years ago when he started out. first day on the job he was handed the dreaded hand tools for 12 inch work. he did not get very far and i think they were about ready give him his check at lunch. he left for lunch and came back with a rented hilti and completed the job. the next day he was working with a journeyman. it didn't take him long to figure it out.
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