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I was talking with someone today that told me the town wants him to change the SER on the side of his house because he painted it when he did the house. The house is in Mercer County, NJ. I've never heard of this and asked if the inspector gave him a code when he failed it. The only code I know of in 110, deals with the interior of electrical equipment.
 
That is pretty far fetched. Unless the paint eats PVC, I dont see it being a problem. We dont use SER here, but I would think that the paint adds another layer of UV protection. I would check with the cable manufacturer and the paint manufacturer to see if the paint will do/has done damage to the sheath. I would bet it is fine.

~Matt
 
I don't think the paint is a problem either, I told him to challenge this but he doesn't want to start trouble. He also said it's a CO issue because he rents the other unit of the home
 
Ken9876 said:
I was talking with someone today that told me the town wants him to change the SER on the side of his house because he painted it when he did the house. The house is in Mercer County, NJ. I've never heard of this and asked if the inspector gave him a code when he failed it. The only code I know of in 110, deals with the interior of electrical equipment.
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I've heard of paints having petroleum distillates that react to break down the insulation but you don't find it regular old paint. From what I hear it's paints like automotive paint. I don't think there is any reason to change the cable.
 
It's hard to correct a code violation when no one knows what it is. As best I can tell, the burden still lies on the inpector to povide the violation.

Edit: "because he painted it". What? Really? What NEC code prevents one from painting his or her home?
 
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TOOL_5150 said:
I would check with the cable manufacturer and the paint manufacturer to see if the paint will do/has done damage to the sheath.

~Matt
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Why go through all that? You might find that everything is fine in that regard and the inspector is still not satisfied.

Just get the code violation that should have already been provided. Much less wasted time.
 
TOOL_5150 said:
That is pretty far fetched. Unless the paint eats PVC, I dont see it being a problem. We dont use SER here, but I would think that the paint adds another layer of UV protection. I would check with the cable manufacturer and the paint manufacturer to see if the paint will do/has done damage to the sheath. I would bet it is fine.

~Matt
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Agreed. Water-based latex paint will not normally harm PVC. I guess there could be an issue if you used a paint that was not chemically compatible, like an oil or solvent based paint.

Actually, if you put in some irrigation and/or water spigots, it is recommended that you paint the exposed white PVC to protect it from the UV rays.

see here:
http://www.ppfahome.org/pvc/faqpvc.html

and here on page 2 under the "Prevention of UV Discoloration":
http://www.jmeagle.com/pdfs/Technical Bulletins/TB10SunlightEffectsonPVC.pdf
 
I would contact the manufacture.
I would ask for a NEC or listing reference.

I have seen lots of SEC and SER painted, not saying it is right, but I have seen it.
 
mivey, you've got comments from two different people in one quote. I hope you don't think I'm picking on you but you should make sure that when somebody is quoted it's posted correctly.

And don't think that I beleive I'm perfect because I certainly isn't. :grin:

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And what do you suppose the pressure rating is on it?:smile:
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I don't feel like a plumber.
 
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physis said:
mivey, you've got comments from two different people in one quote. I hope you don't think I'm picking on you but you should make sure that when somebody is quoted it's posted correctly.

And don't think that I beleive I'm perfect because I certainly isn't. :grin:
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I just replied to your post and did not take the time to fix your original quotes. If you would post the quotes in a normal fashion, it would make it easier for others to reply to your posts. Yeah, I was being lazy.:D
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And what do you suppose the pressure rating is on it?
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I don't feel like a plumber.
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Then why are suggesting that I use electrical conduit for plumbing work? I do know they make some gray pipe that is rated for such work, but it is not what we typically find at the supply house and is not what you were referring to. Me thinks you did did not read the thread thoroughly.:smile:

And note my cool use of the double-layered quote.:cool:
 
mivey said:
I just replied to your post and did not take the time to fix your original quotes. If you would post the quotes in a normal fashion, it would make it easier for others to reply to your posts.
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Um, OK.

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Then why are suggesting that I use electrical conduit for plumbing work?
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However in the world did you come up with that?


mivey said:
I do know they make some gray pipe that is rated for such work, but it is not what we typically find at the supply house and is not what you were referring to.
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Huh? Then what is it you think I was referring to? And where are you shopping that you can't find it?

mivey said:
And note my cool use of the double-layered quote.:cool:
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That is a cool feature. :cool:
 
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physis said:
However in the world did you come up with that?
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Because it fit with my response.:D You could have also meant waste water pipe. I knew there was a possibility you meant gray-colored water pipe. The old PB was gray and I know there is gray for industrial applications. Assuming you meant a legitimate, gray-colored pipe that was suitable for potable water would mean I would have been stuck with a simple reply, and where is the fun in that?
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Huh? Then what is it you think I was referring to?
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Well, since we are on an electrical forum, electrical conduit of course. I was not positive, but I'm going to plead the 5th.
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And where are you shopping that you can't find it?
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It would take me a 1.5 hour round trip to get to a "real" plumbing supply that might have this in stock. The locals only have the white for my application.
 
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