SEU cable for a additional panel

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prattz99

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Hi,

I was at a job yesterday where a sub-panel was fed using an #4 SEU cable. It's a two story wood framing residence. I've been going over the Mike Holt grounding and bonding DVD and workbook and I understand that this is a code violation and hazard, but I'm still a little confused as to why. Is it because the return neutral current is on the enclosure to the subpanel, which can cause a fire and or shock if something loosens? Was feeding and additional panel via SEU cable ever code permissible and should I just leave it? Would I be within the code to make the subpanel only 110v by re-identifying one of the insulated conductors as a neutral?

Thank you,
 

Besoeker3

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This place educates me. SEU was new on me. We have cables, of course. As a rule, we rate them rather than assign different functions to them.
 

hbiss

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I don't see how it is much of a hazard unless you use 3 wire cable where 4 wire is appropriate.

I think that's what he is saying.

Most of us associate SEU with being 3 wire. A feeder supplying a sub panel would require 4 conductors. SER would meet that requirement.

Besoeker3 said:
This place educates me. SEU was new on me. We have cables, of course. As a rule, we rate them rather than assign different functions to them.

Type SE designates a non-metallic service entrance cable. It can also be used for anything else according to its listing.

-Hal
 

Besoeker3

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I think that's what he is saying.

Most of us associate SEU with being 3 wire. A feeder supplying a sub panel would require 4 conductors. SER would meet that requirement.



Type SE designates a non-metallic service entrance cable. It can also be used for anything else according to its listing.

-Hal
Thank you, sir!
Pretty much everything we do, other than internal wiring, is steel wired armoured.
 
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