Seu or ser service entrance cable

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tdaug53

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I am doing a rewire on a existing house and changing the 100 amp meter base and panel to a 200 amp meter base and panel. I have a meter base with a 200 amp main breaker located inside of meter housing and need to run 50' of 2/0 copper ser or seu service entrance cable to feed the new 200 amp panel. Is this ok to run? I will be coming straight up from meter base with conduit into attic and installing the se cable in a unfinished attic area. The condit is only a 20" section.
 

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Once you leave the meter base with the 200 amp OCPD you'll need to run 4 conductors in conduit or SER cable.
 

raider1

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I agree with Rob,

After you hit your service disconnecting means (200 amp breaker) the feeder to the panel must have a separate neutral and equipment grounding conductor.

Chris
 

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If you are under the '08 Code you might wish to discuss with your inspector his take on 338.30. SE ampacity has been a much debated topic here with the wording of that section in the '08 Code. You inspector may not accept 2/0 Cu SE (interior) as suitable for a 200 amp service.
 

Dennis Alwon

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If the meter/ combo disconnect has no other breakers in it then Imo, 310.16(B)(6) trumps art. 338.

I agree with Gus you need to check with the ahj on this. If I were doing it and it is in an attic I would pipe it the entire way and then use copper 2/0.
 

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If you are under the '08 Code you might wish to discuss with your inspector his take on 338.30. SE ampacity has been a much debated topic here with the wording of that section in the '08 Code. You inspector may not accept 2/0 Cu SE (interior) as suitable for a 200 amp service.
Umm... there is no 338.30 in the 2008 NEC.

Perhaps you mean 334.80 by way of 338.10(B)(4)(a).

I agree 310.15(B)(6) trumps that.
 

cpal

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how hot does it get in the attic and how long is the run,,

and why doesn't 336.10(B) (4) trump 310.15(B)(6)??

The SE will be use for interior installations.
 

Dennis Alwon

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how hot does it get in the attic and how long is the run,,

and why doesn't 336.10(B) (4) trump 310.15(B)(6)??

The SE will be use for interior installations.


That is the big question. Table and article 310.15(B)(6) says it is allowed for the given situation. I see 338.10(B) as covering everything else. This is obviously an oversight by the CMP. I am sure it will be clarified in 2011.
 

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From here: http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files/PDF/ROP/70-A2010-ROPDraft.pdf, it appears they may have, but I still don't see it being as clear as possible. When I read the draft of 338 & 310, I read that 338 trumps 310 but I have no doubt others will read differently. Perhaps, before final adoption, it will be more clear.
The reason I do not agree with your interpretation is because 310.15 refers to a specific feeder, namely a "main power feeder", and elaborates on the parameters which qualifies a feeder as such.

In looking at 338.10(B)(4), I see it as a more general, broader scope requirement as it is regarding, as its main title reads, "Installation Methods for Branch Circuits and Feeders".
 
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