SEU...service entrance conductor

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Can SEU be in the wall? I came out of the back of the meter socket, into the wall about a foot off the floor, then staight down to the basement into the panel. Inspectors telling me SEU can't be buried in the wall like that.???

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I assume you mean Type USE cable. Look at 33810(B)(4) and you will see the inspector is correct. Type SE cable is permitted in this installation because the jacket is flame-retardant where as the jacket of Type USE is not required to be flame-retardant.

Jim
 
I agree with dcspector,

SEU is not USE. SEU is a service entrance cable that is in an overall jacket and can be used in walls. (See article 338 )

Chris
 
I also agree that SEU is permitted in a wall.

However....maybe the inspector is thinking less about the SEU and more about 230.70(A)(1) 'nearest the point of entrance.'

I doubt the installation the OP describes would be allowed here either.

The OP has the SEU inside the stud bay of a first floor room than went down through the plate into the cellar.

Here the SE would be kept on the surface outside. We come out of the bottom of the meter socket and run down outside until we can enter the cellar directly.

It must be a nice looking installation with the hidden SEU but I would not do it without using a meter main and SER to the panel.

Could be a big surprise to anyone cutting into that wall not expecting unprotected service conductors.
 
I do work in one jurisdiction that requires service conductors that are not in conduit (such as cable) to be exposed at all points (except the actual wall penetration). That takes a little thinking and planning sometimes to work with that requirement. Sometimes it is helpful to have the SE cable go up or down the wall a foot or so.
 
dcspector said:
Bob,

Are you reading between the lines? We cannot assume..... We just answer the post......more detail...from OP....Please!
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I don't think I am reading between the lines

reliableresource said:
I came out of the back of the meter socket, into the wall about a foot off the floor, then staight down to the basement into the panel.
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dcspector said:
Bob,

Are you reading between the lines? We cannot assume..... We just answer the post......more detail...from OP....Please!
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While Bob wasn't reading between the lines, I've seen dozens of threads where someone reading between the lines has really helped get to the root of a situation and helped immensely. Sometimes it will answer an OP yet warn about other potential problems.
 
dcspector said:
Bob,
I was not trying to be difficult.
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I did not think that you were. :)


I just do not assume. I just answer their questions....
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You must have assumed if you answered a question on this forum. ;)


as an Inspector seeing is believing.
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Seeing is not a luxury we get on the forum to often.

But your right some more info from the opening poster would be helpful.

Everyone assumed the mistake was USE indoors which is not what the poster said he had. :)
 
Bob's answer is a perfect example of why this forum works so well. Sometimes the focus of the thread may be on one issue, and others do not see different issues that may also impact an installation.

I say we all assume a lot of different times on this forum and it is mostly a good thing.

Besides, Bob is probably a Patriots fan and is feeling pretty good tonight after the season the Patriots are having... ;)
 
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