Sevice riser

[fittowork1]

I have a meter pack that was ordered wrong by another contractor and I am forced to come out the bottom with a overhead service

Near the panel is the gas meter to the left in-between the meter pack and the weather head point


My issue is getting the conduit back up the wall and staying away from the gas meter


Does 3 foot rule apply to the service conduit spacing away from the gas meter

Also I have to run accross the eve to a 90 sweep keeping the coupling below the roof line with a strap above the coupling

Am I out of my mind or is this possible

 

[augie47]

AFIK the gas meter is irrelevant

 

[fittowork1]

AFIK the gas meter is irrelevant

That's what I was confused because the code says keep utility's 3 feet from riser (paraphrased) I wasn't sure if this included the service conduit

 

[Buck Parrish]

Why can't you use a Myers Hub and come out of the top of the meter base?

 

[wwhitney]

AFIK the gas meter is irrelevant

The local gas company (for me and the OP) doesn't think so. And since they are also the POCO (PG&E), they can enforce that easily.

Per the diagram below from their service manual (called the Green Book), they want you to generally stay 3' away from the point where the gas service rises out of the ground. The exception is that conduit shown; note 3 says that the section in the grey area must be continuous without joints, fittings, etc. and at least 6' above the gas regulator vent.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[jap]

Isn't this an extension of a previous post on "entering the side of a meter pack" ??

JAP>

 

[fittowork1]

Isn't this an extension of a previous post on "entering the side of a meter pack" ??

JAP>

Yes but entering the side is out the window

 

[fittowork1]

The local gas company (for me and the OP) doesn't think so. And since they are also the POCO (PG&E), they can enforce that easily.

Per the diagram below from their service manual (called the Green Book), they want you to generally stay 3' away from the point where the gas service rises out of the ground. The exception is that conduit shown; note 3 says that the section in the grey area must be continuous without joints, fittings, etc. and at least 6' above the gas regulator vent.

Cheers, Wayne

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Thanks Wayne

But I looked at pacific gas and electrics green book and it has no diagram like that. I'm in norther California. Maybe I missed it It has one but with no conduit

 

[wwhitney]

But I looked at pacific gas and electrics green book and it has no diagram like that. I'm in norther California. Maybe I missed it It has one but with no conduit

I got the current Green Book from here:

Greenbook Manual Online

Download the guide to PG&E utility requirements for establishing gas or electric service to new or remodeled customer installations.

www.pge.com

The image I posted is Figure 2-19 on page 2-32, in Chapter 2 "Gas Services". Figure 5-3 on page 5-14 in Chapter 5 "Electric Metering: General" appears identical.

Maybe you're looking at an older version?

Cheers, Wayne

 

[tshea]

Meters Hub, straight up through the soffit riser. Guy as needed.

 

[fittowork1]

I got the current Green Book from here:

Greenbook Manual Online

Download the guide to PG&E utility requirements for establishing gas or electric service to new or remodeled customer installations.

www.pge.com

The image I posted is Figure 2-19 on page 2-32, in Chapter 2 "Gas Services". Figure 5-3 on page 5-14 in Chapter 5 "Electric Metering: General" appears identical.

Maybe you're looking at an older version?

Cheers, Wayne

Ya I was looking at an old version I defiantly do not remember that conduit rule last edition of the Green Book

Thanks

 

[fittowork1]

Meters Hub, straight up through the soffit riser. Guy as needed.

I would love to but this panel was ordered and installed a year before I took this project over and it's specs are for bottom entry only

If it was a 200 dollar panel I would start over but 4 meter packs are expensive

Also if I go straight up the ext poco is 25 feet away

 

[Buck Parrish]

Some power companies don't allow an LB in the riser.

 

[fittowork1]

Some power companies don't allow an LB in the riser.

Ya I'm done with that idea the bend is to tight

 

[LarryFine]

Ya I'm done with that idea the bend is to tight

Stealing power is the real reason.

 

[fittowork1]

Stealing power is the real reason.

Never thought about that but still there are max bend radious and for a 600 wire it's 10 inches

 

[curt swartz]

What manufacture is the meter stack? I looked at Square D, Siemens and Eaton and they are all listed as suitable for overhead or underground feed?

How much extra conduit and wire will it take to loop into the bottom? If the meter stack you have is really not able to be fed overhead you would probably better off replacing it. Have you priced 3" conduit and 600CU? Probably looking at at least $75 per foot material.

 

[electrofelon]

Strange there is money for CU over aluminum but not to replace the meter pack with the correct equipment if necessary.

 

[fittowork11]

The local gas company (for me and the OP) doesn't think so. And since they are also the POCO (PG&E), they can enforce that easily.

Per the diagram below from their service manual (called the Green Book), they want you to generally stay 3' away from the point where the gas service rises out of the ground. The exception is that conduit shown; note 3 says that the section in the grey area must be continuous without joints, fittings, etc. and at least 6' above the gas regulator vent.

Cheers, Wayne

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thanks wayne you saved me a major headache

 

[fittowork11]

Why can't you use a Myers Hub and come out of the top of the meter base?

I actually was going to do that and I consulted with the shop that the panel was purchased from and the panel specs specify bottom entrance only not trying to put a hole in the top then get called on it