Sharing electricity expenses estimation

[Sahib]

The tenant to occupy 5th and 8th floors. How to estimate sharing of HVAC, lights , elevator, fire protection charges, standby generator usage in the absence of submeter? Thanks.

 

[LarryFine]

The tenant to occupy 5th and 8th floors. How to estimate sharing of HVAC, lights , elevator, fire protection charges, standby generator usage in the absence of submeter? Thanks.

Percentage of total square footage? How are other tenants contributing?

 

[Sahib]

Yes, percentage of square footage. Maximum demand also that way? Thanks.

 

[mivey]

As long as usage profiles are the same then square foot percentage. An 8-5 law office use will be very different from a 24-hour data center so a load count and profile would then be better.

 

[Sahib]

As long as usage profiles are the same then square foot percentage. An 8-5 law office use will be very different from a 24-hour data center so a load count and profile would then be better.

So if the tenant maximum demand is not coincident, it is better to have a separate sub-meter. correct?

 

[Besoeker]

So if the tenant maximum demand is not coincident, it is better to have a separate sub-meter. correct?

I would and it would be an objective way of sharing out the total bill. If that would be permitted by the POCO.

 

[mivey]

So if the tenant maximum demand is not coincident, it is better to have a separate sub-meter. correct?

If you do not have a decent approximation of the demand coincidence factor then a separate meter would be needed if you want to assign demand costs with a reasonable degree of fairness.

 

[Sahib]

If you do not have a decent approximation of the demand coincidence factor then a separate meter would be needed if you want to assign demand costs with a reasonable degree of fairness.

Thanks.

 

[Sahib]

If you do not have a decent approximation of the demand coincidence factor then a separate meter would be needed if you want to assign demand costs with a reasonable degree of fairness.

If the sub-meter as suggested above is not provided but Maximum demand is shared on square foot basis, who will get undue advantage, owner or tenant ?

 

[mivey]

If the sub-meter as suggested above is not provided but Maximum demand is shared on square foot basis, who will get undue advantage, owner or tenant ?

The one with the highest demand per square foot.

 

[sameguy]

Like if I setup a bitcoin mining plant and you help me pay for the power bill!

 

[Sahib]

The one with the highest demand per square foot.

I think no problem with MD whether shared through sub-meter or square foot basis. But the owner having higher area coverage would gain undue advantage for KWH sharing on square foot basis because sharing on square foot basis assumes all load switched on tenant side which is not always the case. Your view on this? Thanks.

 

[jtp]

The tenant to occupy 5th and 8th floors. How to estimate sharing of HVAC, lights , elevator, fire protection charges, standby generator usage in the absence of submeter? Thanks.

Just make sure the rental contract spells out clearly how you plan on sharing those expenses...CLEARLY...So they can look at the utility bills and other info used to determine the share without any questions/lawsuits.