Shelby County, Alabama adopts 2008 NEC with three amendments

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joe tedesco

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Shelby County, Alabama adopted the 2008 National Electrical Code with the three following amendments:​

1) a. There shall be no more than 10 outlets on any 15 ampere rated general use circuit.​

b. There shall be no more than 12 outlets on any 20 ampere rated general use circuit.​

2) Where multiple services serve the same building or structure, all service disconnects shall be capable of being disconnected from one location regardless of voltage or phase. Where those services are at different locations in the building, shunt-trip mechanisms shall be permissible.​

3) A green insulated equipment grounding conductor shall be installed in all flexible conduit wiring methods regardless of length.​
 
#1 is an absurd rule in my opinion, if they are talking about dwelling units. I don't usually put more than 10 outlets on a 15 amp circuit anyway for the most part, but actually making a code rule for it is pointless.
 
"outlets" actual wording? Or receptacles?
10/12 not alot considering lights. 6 in one small bedroom. 4 rec,1 ceiling and 1 smoke. Speaking of which, how about those larger homes with 15 or more smoke detectors/heat/co ?

I smell a good business in fire systems comming.;)


EDIT: Today I get the NEMA alert, Alabama excepted the '08.
AFCI and TR rec waived until 4/08.

Who rules? the county or the state? :confused:

In MA State supercedes the NEC.

http://www.nema.org/stds/fieldreps/codealerts/20080110al.cfm
 
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When I was doing residential wiring down in Florida, we used a point method when installing recepticals in a residential dwelling. Recepticals were counted as two points and general lighting counted as one point per fixture. This helped in figuring branch circuit ampacities. Totla amount of points per circuit would be 12 at that time.

Is this method still being used somewhere?

Keesha, I would venture to say that the state would have precidence over county officiating but I wouldnt want to upset county officials if your looking for that inspection to pass.
 
newtronical1 said:
When I was doing residential wiring down in Florida, we used a point method when installing recepticals in a residential dwelling. Recepticals were counted as two points and general lighting counted as one point per fixture. This helped in figuring branch circuit ampacities. Totla amount of points per circuit would be 12 at that time.

Is this method still being used somewhere?

Keesha, I would venture to say that the state would have precidence over county officiating but I wouldnt want to upset county officials if your looking for that inspection to pass.
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RE;points: In general I think we all have an educated "within reason" standard.
I typicaly stop around 8 Rec./ckt, of course takeing into acount the lighhts that may be sharing the ckt.

As Far as "upsetting" the county officials,(I respect the comment) but firmly feel the rules are the rules. I try my hardest not to cave to "power trips".
This all depends on the "bottom line" impact.

Something small to keep the peace, ok. More than that, quote the violation.

Additionaly: In general, Why is this stuff not ready/available? They all knew it was comming didn't they?
 
Stick, your correct. I guess it just comes down to the way I was mentored.It stuck with me,and I don't hold fast to it.
So I guess it leaves some flexability to those unforseen add ons during rough..
 
It was just sorta a rough guesstamite when doing residential wiring. It worked fine back then as you would have five rec. and maybe a couple lights on a circuit.

This was no rule, just something to give the electrical apprentice an idea on how many recepticles you could safely put on one circuit, including lights.

When wiring a residential unit down there, you made up the branch circuits as you wired the unit. The print just showed where the recepticals were located. When roughing in a house and you are doing piece work, this bit of info came in handy sometimes.
 
keesha said:
Stick, your correct. I guess it just comes down to the way I was mentored.It stuck with me,and I don't hold fast to it.
So I guess it leaves some flexability to those unforseen add ons during rough..
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There is no right or wrong way to do it, I just think some people go overboard. And like someone mentioned here before, no matter how you split up your circuits, some house wife will still overload a circuit. :grin:
 
LOL...I heard that. Getting back to the original topic, I think 10 outlets on one circuit is quite a bit.

The gound conductor is also a good idea but in runs shorter then 12", I think it is a waste of time and material.

JMO
 
Number of outlets

Number of outlets

I personally can't comprehend the number of outlets on a circuit in a dwelling on the general purpose circuits, What if I hit the lottery and build a house with 14 bathrooms for my wife and I?? I guess? What if I can only afford one circuit breaker??? WOW. I don't know guys.:confused:
 
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