shouldnt this be on an arcfault

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Went to another electricians job today. Guys been with the company 12 years. Wiring the master bedroom theres a bathroom with a door from the master. No other entry to the bathroom. Too many outlets for one circuit. So I had circuit split perfectly even and planned on pulling two hrs. One to bath and closets one to bedrooms. He tells me the bath doesnt need to be arcfault. He wants the bath on the lighting circuit. So I do it his way. Should I have put this bathroom on an arcfault circuit?
 
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nope!
;)

It can be but it's not required to be.

[ November 25, 2005, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: davedottcom ]
 
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What Dave said.

Roger
 
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If the bathroom is in the bedroom, then it needs AFCI'd. Obviously, this bathroom is indeed another room, so it does not require AFCI protection. It doesn't matter a hill of beans where the door to the bathroom is. It's still a seperate room. Sometimes you get these bathroom vanity/basin/makeup areas inside master suites that are actually in the bedroom. They need AFCI protection since they are in the bedroom and not in a seperate room.
 
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Our state rules here have taken the guess work out of it. Bathrooms are not included.
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012 Arc-fault circuit-interrupter protection.

(3) For the purpose of NEC 210.12(B), Dwelling Unit Bedroom spaces that:

(a) Are accessed only through the bedroom;

(b) Are ancillary to the bedroom's function; and

(c) Contain branch circuits that supply 125-volt, 15- and 20-ampere, outlets must be protected by an arc-fault circuit interrupter listed to provide protection per NEC 210.12.

For the purposes of this section, such spaces will include, but not be limited to, spaces such as closets and sitting areas, but will not include bathrooms.
 
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Just to clarify, the bath receptacle must be on a 20-amp circuit, either a bath-receptacle-only circuit, or a one-bathroom-and-nothing-else circuit. Either way, it need not be AFCI'd, only GFCI'd.
 
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Boy its nice to eat a little crow with my turkey. Its always good to learn something new. Larry I wasnt talking so much the gifffys as I was the vanity and bs light fixture plus fan.

{Moderator's Note: Edited to "clean up" the bathroom language.}

[ November 25, 2005, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: charlie b ]
 
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