Small Appliance branch circuits
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Re: Small Appliance branch circuits
No. See 210.52(B)
Don
No. See 210.52(B)
Don
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Re: Small Appliance branch circuits
Don
Just curious. This section (210.52(B) refers to receptacle outlets. Would thisn not allow a dishwasher if it is cord and plug connected? Not desirable of course, but would it be allowed?
Don
Just curious. This section (210.52(B) refers to receptacle outlets. Would thisn not allow a dishwasher if it is cord and plug connected? Not desirable of course, but would it be allowed?
Re: Small Appliance branch circuits
what is your translation of article 210.52(b) where it states " The small-appliance branch circuit illustrated are not permitted to serve any other outlets, such as might be connected to exhuast hoods or fans, disposals, or dishwashers" This is in the NEC Hand Book.
what is your translation of article 210.52(b) where it states " The small-appliance branch circuit illustrated are not permitted to serve any other outlets, such as might be connected to exhuast hoods or fans, disposals, or dishwashers" This is in the NEC Hand Book.
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Re: Small Appliance branch circuits
What was wrong with Don's original answer?
What was wrong with Don's original answer?
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Ok what about a switched outlet over the cabinets?I have always put them on kitchen gfci circuits.They do not serve counter top,dining,nook receptacles.But are in the kitchen.This article doesn`t give a height max.
requirement other than over 20 ins. Not a countertop receptacle.and what about 24 in walls in a kitchen they would have to be either on small appliance circuit or on dining/nook circuit.So what`s to stop a range hood receptacle from being on of these circuits give me an article!!!My bad If inundated I will concede.But I maintain if passed on rough then how can someone fail a
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Ok what about a switched outlet over the cabinets?I have always put them on kitchen gfci circuits.They do not serve counter top,dining,nook receptacles.But are in the kitchen.This article doesn`t give a height max.
requirement other than over 20 ins. Not a countertop receptacle.and what about 24 in walls in a kitchen they would have to be either on small appliance circuit or on dining/nook circuit.So what`s to stop a range hood receptacle from being on of these circuits give me an article!!!My bad If inundated I will concede.But I maintain if passed on rough then how can someone fail a
final ???
Re: Small Appliance branch circuits
NEC 210.11 indicates that two small appliance branch circuits are required and 210.52(C) (5) clearly limits the location of countertop receptacle outlets to not more than 18 inches above the countertop. Section 210.52(c)(5) also states that receptacle outlets rendered not readily accessible by appliances fastened in place, appliance garages or appliances occupying dedicated space shall not be considered as these required outlets. The receptacle is not permitted to be counted to the small appliance branch circuits that serve the countertop. You might also consider that the microwave load is probably greater than 50% of the circuit and by Section 210.23 (A) (2) may require a separate circuit depending on the appliance rating
This information was gotten from the ?Western Section IAEI Annual Meeting in Kearney Nebraska?
NEC 210.11 indicates that two small appliance branch circuits are required and 210.52(C) (5) clearly limits the location of countertop receptacle outlets to not more than 18 inches above the countertop. Section 210.52(c)(5) also states that receptacle outlets rendered not readily accessible by appliances fastened in place, appliance garages or appliances occupying dedicated space shall not be considered as these required outlets. The receptacle is not permitted to be counted to the small appliance branch circuits that serve the countertop. You might also consider that the microwave load is probably greater than 50% of the circuit and by Section 210.23 (A) (2) may require a separate circuit depending on the appliance rating
This information was gotten from the ?Western Section IAEI Annual Meeting in Kearney Nebraska?
websparky
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Re: Small Appliance branch circuits
The final is exactly that, final.
It is the responsibility of the contractor to know the code and install according to the code. It is his responsibility to check his workmanship on a daily basis.
It is not the responsibility of the inspector to hold the hands of the contractor during the install process.
However, when I was installing, I would ask questions of the inspector when I did see him to help me avoid problems. Especially the kinds of problems that could come-up after the walls were finised or the concrete poured!
The rough inspection is just that, rough.
The final is exactly that, final.
It is the responsibility of the contractor to know the code and install according to the code. It is his responsibility to check his workmanship on a daily basis.
It is not the responsibility of the inspector to hold the hands of the contractor during the install process.
However, when I was installing, I would ask questions of the inspector when I did see him to help me avoid problems. Especially the kinds of problems that could come-up after the walls were finised or the concrete poured!
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