small appliance circuit in kitchen

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I need help making sure I understand this. A small appliance circuit in a kitchen and dining room, the receptacles on these circuits all need to be gfci protected receptacles. Also a minimum of two small appliance circuits total for these two areas. Is this right?
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Joe
 
Joe Rocker said:
I need help making sure I understand this. A small appliance circuit in a kitchen and dining room, the receptacles on these circuits all need to be gfci protected receptacles. Also a minimum of two small appliance circuits total for these two areas. Is this right?
Thank you
Joe
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The dining room does not have to be GFCI protected but all counter recep. in the kitchen must be. Yes a minimum of 2 sabc for the kitchen & dining
 
small appliance circuit in kitchen

Okay, thank you for the feedback. So the dining room small appliance circuits do not have to be gfci protected but since they are in a dining room, would they fall under AFCI protection?
Thank you
Joe
 
jumper said:
Am I wrong:-?, SABC do not need to be 20 amp.
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The refrigerator may be a 15 amp dedicated circuit but that would not count as a sabc. You would still need 2 SABC that supplied the countertops. One of those may continue to the dining room but IMO, with the requirement for AFCI I would install a separate cir for the dining room.
 
roger3829 said:
Why do you have to have at least one GFCI protected receptacle on each circuit?:confused:

It might be nice but not required.
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The code requires that all of the counter recep. must be GFCI protected. The code also requires that both circuits must supply the kitchen counter. If there are only 2 receptacles in the entire kitchen then you must serve them from different SABC. Thus there would be 2 circuits at the counter. The circuit may continue to serve the dining area or other areas of the SABC but both required circuits must be at the countertop.

BTW, don't argue with Larry he has friends name Moe and Curly. You don't want to mess with them. :D
 
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This thread is all over the place with what some think should be installed.

Sometimes the best way to explain it is to send one to the section(s) in the NEC where the actual requirements are located.

210.11(C)1
210.52(B)(1) -(B)(3)
210.52(C)(1)-(C)(5)

This is about 1 1/2 pages of reading.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
The code requires that all of the counter recep. must be GFCI protected. The code also requires that both circuits must supply the kitchen counter. If there are only 2 receptacles in the entire kitchen then you must serve them from different SABC. Thus there would be 2 circuits at the counter. The circuit may continue to serve the dining area or other areas of the SABC but both required circuits must be at the countertop.

BTW, don't argue with Larry he has friends name Moe and Curly. You don't want to mess with them. :D
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OK. The 2 SABC must serve all wall, floor, refrigeration and countertop receptacles.

Circuit #1 could serve countertop receptacles. GFCI protection required
Circuit #2 could serve refrigerator and wall receptacles. NO GFCI protection required.
 
roger3829 said:
OK. The 2 SABC must serve all wall, floor, refrigeration and countertop receptacles.

Circuit #1 could serve countertop receptacles. GFCI protection required
Circuit #2 could serve refrigerator and wall receptacles. NO GFCI protection required.
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No. Both SABCs must serve the c'tops. 210.52(B)(3).
 
roger3829 said:
OK. The 2 SABC must serve all wall, floor, refrigeration and countertop receptacles.

Circuit #1 could serve countertop receptacles. GFCI protection required
Circuit #2 could serve refrigerator and wall receptacles. NO GFCI protection required.
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I don't agree

210.53(B)(3) said:
Kitchen Receptacle Requirements. Receptacles installed in a kitchen to serve countertop surfaces shall be supplied by not fewer than two small-appliance branch circuits, either or both of which shall also be permitted to supply receptacle outlets in the same kitchen and in other rooms specified in 210.52(B)(1). Additional small-appliance branch circuits shall be permitted to supply receptacle outlets in the kitchen and other rooms specified in 210.52(B)(1). No small-appliance branch circuit shall serve more than one kitchen.
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Dennis Alwon said:
BTW, don't argue with Larry he has friends name Moe and Curly. You don't want to mess with them. :D
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Oh, a wise guy! Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk! :D Don't make me call my lawyers!

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