Small Structure Fire

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physis

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This morning my partner and I went to a Chinese retauraunt to, basically, get these guys back into business today. The fire department had just left last night.

There're a few different issues I want to get some opinions on, or probably more accurately, just cause some discussion.

What happened was an exterior halogen parking lot lamp, mounted on the building, had caused a fire. It burned a little bit of the building exterior, toasted the end of an MN cable (yeah, commercial). The fire department did an amazingly small amount of damage but there is an at least 4' square hole in the side of the building now and the suspended ceiling inside is moderately damaged to about 4X8 feet.

The first thing I thought was weird was that the fire department, instead of tripping the main, turned off every single branch cicuit breaker, like 40 of 'em. The main was right there in that panel. It would have been nice to just find wnich one tripped. But, whatever.

It costed $100 to just 86 the fixture and make the circuit safe. The wife was very unhappy about this, (I'll bet ya I couldn't have gotten a better price on a menu item from her, you know, given the unhealthy rubble in there? :grin:) even though we were there in less than an hour of their call. They were going to do businees with the rubble laying on three tables in their eating area until we mentioned Health Dept.

There's also a neon transformer parked at the roof in the attic area. This thing has 4 terminals. There're are four conductors poked through the exterior wall, two just flop around in the wind and the other two feed this really scary perifery tube and an open sign, with lots of uninsulated secondary conductors.
 

augie47

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Chinese restaurant... only one transformer problem ? obviously you didn't do a full 360? scan above the ceiling :)
You completed the task for which you were hired. I'd make a note on my invoice (work order) that you observed other item(s) that needed to addressed to CYA and drive on.
 

crazyboy

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....instead of tripping the main, turned off every single branch cicuit breaker, like 40 of 'em. The main was right there in that panel. It would have been nice to just find wnich one tripped. But, whatever.....

That is odd! Usually they want to leave the individual circuit breakers in the position that they were in so that they can document this and check these items during their fire investigation, had it been something large.
 

brian john

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Chinese restaurant... only one transformer problem ? obviously you didn't do a full 360? scan above the ceiling :)
You completed the task for which you were hired. I'd make a note on my invoice (work order) that you observed other item(s) that needed to addressed to CYA and drive on.

When I did commercial service I learned one truth most restaurants are questionable when it comes to cleanliness. Several big name top notch restaurants were closed by the health dept during this period. But by far Chinese restaurants lead the list.
 

wawireguy

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Don't do service work at restraunts if you like eating out! By far the best ones are Subways and Wendy's for cleanliness. Been in a Mexican restraunt kitchen and I'll never go back there. One of the "better" restraunts in the area was so greasy in the bar area of all places. Wasn't overly impressed with it either.
 

physis

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The thing that really bothers me is this super duper cheap scate wife who simply can't stand the idea of spending a stupid $100.00 to at least make things safe after whatever happened that "she" appearantly doesn't have a problem with. Anyway, blah, blah ,blah.

I can't stand people like this, she doesn't beleive it'll ever cause "her" saftey to be jepordized. And I can't help but think that she just plain doesn't care if she hurts somebody else, for minimum wage no less.
 

physis

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Chinese restaurant... only one transformer problem ? obviously you didn't do a full 360? scan above the ceiling :)
You completed the task for which you were hired. I'd make a note on my invoice (work order) that you observed other item(s) that needed to addressed to CYA and drive on.

I have to say that I dont understand what you mean by, 360 degree scan? Was I supposed to make sure and spin my head around all the way? Should I have used a tricorder? I'm just not sure what I left out.
 

physis

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Chinese restaurant... only one transformer problem ? obviously you didn't do a full 360? scan above the ceiling :)
You completed the task for which you were hired. I'd make a note on my invoice (work order) that you observed other item(s) that needed to addressed to CYA and drive on.

We still need to land a new halogen lamp (I mean they). Anybody want bets on somebody getting the install for about $7.00 to $12.00 bucks? Including materials.
 

K8MHZ

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The thing that really bothers me is this super duper cheap scate wife who simply can't stand the idea of spending a stupid $100.00 to at least make things safe after whatever happened that "she" appearantly doesn't have a problem with. Anyway, blah, blah ,blah.

I can't stand people like this, she doesn't beleive it'll ever cause "her" saftey to be jepordized. And I can't help but think that she just plain doesn't care if she hurts somebody else, for minimum wage no less.

There are some jobs you need to purposely over bid so you know you won't get them. This sounds like one of them.
 
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