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Engaged in some basic research into solar applications for single family homes. Have learned that there are a lot of different technologies. Any thoughts out there on what the best bet is for 10KW or less applications?

Also, I see that most of the applications involve an interface with the utility such that when you're not using the power being generated, it feeds this power onto the grid and that at other times, the utility and solar panels are paralleling.

Would be interested in knowing how this works? I mean, when I think of paralleling, I think of fairly big packages with protective relays, plc's, etc. Some of these interfaces are relatively tiny?

Thanks,

Mike
 
Look at the Xantex website for some good explanations. They, and several other manufacturers, make good electronic packages that handle the paralleleing, protection, battery charging and otehr interface issues for smaller systems.
 
Mike I have looked into it, and have considered doing solar for very niche purposes like a remote telemetry site where utility build cost are prohibited.

Do a little research on initial cost and payback time, and you get a nasty surprise? It can take 10 to 30 years to pay for itself depending on KWH cost from POCO. The model I constructed was for a 2200/ft2 home, averaging 26 KWH per day usage, on a 8KW solar system, 8-hours of sunlight per day by 365 (not realistic), at 11-cents per KWH from POCO, came out to 27-year payback time. The other road block is the utility itself with net metering. Many will have no part of it, and the some of the ones that do, will only credit half of what you generate than they charge you. Example they charge you 10-cents for every KWH used, and only pay you 5cents for what you generate. Makes it impossible for you to ever receive a check or credit.

The other nasty secret the industry does not want to talk about IMO is to make the panels use more energy over the lifetime of the product, and generates more CO2 gasses to manufacture, than just buying from the POCO.

The big issue as I see it is the panels are just too inefficient today at roughly 20 to 25%. 25 years ago it was 10 to 15% so little progress has been made in development. So until they can get to above 50% efficiency and lower the cost per KW by 50% or more, solar will remain a niche market IMO.
 
Dereck,

I agree with all of your basic points. Solar power has such high up-front costs that the only way to properly apply it is with a careful life cycle analysis.

However I _believe_ that with current technology, the energy produced by a solar cell is greater than that consumed to make the solar cell...though the energy used to make the solar cell is a very large portion of the lifetime energy output, so errors in analysis could push the results in the other direction.

Also, I don't believe that we necessarily need to improve cell efficiency, but instead need to reduce cost per watt; if someone came up with a technique that was 5% efficient by very very cheap, then it would be a win. For example, some of the 'biomass' approaches can be considered low efficiency solar power with solar cells that grow themselves.

-Jon
 
Jon your oppinion is appreciated and valued, howevr IMO the effiency has to double or even triple to be viable along with huge reduction in total install cost. Right now under ideal conditions the best you can get is about 10-watts per square feet. For a 2200/ft2 home and 8 KW panles, the panel array would be bigger than the the exposed half of the roof. that is not feasible and ugly as sin.

Another thing to keep in mind is my model was perfect conditions based on 8-hours of direct sunlight by 365 days and not realistic, So a real life system would have to be larger, much larger to generate enough KWH to carry though the rest of the 24-hour day. 6-hours is about as good as it gets in the southern hemisphere during a few short summer months.

Like I said earlier, not many POCO's allow net metering, that means if you want off the grid comes even a large system with very expensive batteries that need replaced every few years. Now you are talking about a system that will cost more than the house with equally as high manitenance cost.

IMO there is only one real economical and clean solution to are ever growing electrical demand. It is nothng new, just a lot more improved, NUCLEAR.
 
Robert Griffin, Massapequa
1.8 kW System
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?I?ve been interested in solar electricity for 20 years. New technical improvements and financial support from LIPA make it a great, safe and clean alternative to oil. It?s also an economical, long-term investment: I have seen my meter run backwards on sunny days continuously from about 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m., which supplements about two-thirds of my LIPA electric bill in the summer.?

Carol Caputo, East Patchogue
1.4 kW PV System
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"I have been an avid follower of solar for many years, and when I found out about LIPA?s Solar Pioneer Program incentives, I decided to install PV on a cottage behind my house. Solar is good for the environment. I am also a conservative user of energy, utilize compact fluorescent light bulbs and looking into energy efficiency appliances for my home to maximize the benefits of producing electricity with PV."

From: http://www.lipower.org/cei/solar.metering.html
What is Net Metering and How Does It Work?
Through New York State?s Net Metering Law and LIPA?s Tariff for Electric Service, residential customers with PV systems 10 kW or less are entitled to net metering. At times, a net metered customer?s PV system may generate more electric energy than their consumption. When this occurs, the electric meter will spin in reverse. The excess electricity is returned to the LIPA system. At the end of each month, the net metered customer is billed only for the net consumption, that is, the amount of electricity consumed, less the amount of electricity produced. This is called ?net metering.? Your meter is currently spinning in the "Consumption" mode. To spin your meter backwards due to PV, we need to reverse the dials direction to simulate a reversing meter.

Why is net metering important?
There are three reasons net metering is important. First, as increasing numbers of primarily residential customers install renewable energy systems in their homes, there needs to be a simple, standardized protocol for connecting their systems into the electricity grid that ensures safety and power quality. Second, many residential customers are not at home using electricity during the day when their systems are producing power, and net metering allows them to receive full value for the electricity they produce without installing expensive battery storage systems. Third, net metering provides a simple, inexpensive, and easily-administered mechanism for encouraging the use of renewable energy systems, which provide important local, national, and global benefits.

What are the benefits and costs of net metering?
Consumers benefit by getting greater value for some of the electricity they generate, by being able to interconnect with the utility using their existing utility meter, and by being able to interconnect using widely-accepted technical standards.

The only cost associated with net metering is indirect: the customer is buying less electricity from the utility, which means the utility is collecting less revenue from the customer. That's because any excess electricity that would have been sold to the utility at the wholesale or 'avoided cost' price is instead being used to offset electricity the customer would have purchased at the retail price. In most cases, the revenue loss is comparable to having the customer reducing electricity use by investing in energy efficiency measures, such as compact fluorescent lights and efficient appliances.

Can I use my existing meter to take advantage of net metering?
The standard kilowatt-hour meter used for residential customers will be replaced with a "net meter", which accurately registers the flow of electricity in either direction. This means the 'netting' process associated with net metering happens automatically-the meter spins forward (in the normal direction) when the consumer needs more electricity than is being produced, and spins backward when the consumer is producing more electricity than is needed in the house or building.

How can I be sure that these small-scale PV systems are safe?
During the last decade there has been tremendous technological progress in the design of the equipment that integrates small-scale generators with the utility grid. Called 'inverters' because they were originally designed only to 'invert' the DC electricity produced by solar arrays to the AC electricity used in our homes and businesses, these devices have evolved into extremely sophisticated power management systems. Inverters now include all the necessary protective relays and circuit breakers needed to synchronize safely and reliably with the utility grid.

What LIPA and State Incentives are available to help minimize the cost of purchasing a PV System?
LIPA?s Solar Pioneer Program, combined with tax incentives currently available from New York State, makes this a great time to consider solar power for your home. LIPA offers direct incentives that significantly reduce the cost of utility interconnected photovoltaic (PV) systems sized up to 10 kilowatts (KW). Residential customers may also pursue a New York State tax credit of up to $3,750. In addition, homeowners may take advantage of New York State?s 15-year property tax exemption for Solar Energy Systems (check with your municipality to see if you?re eligible). Back to top

As a Net Metered Customer, How Will LIPA Bill Me?
Net metered customers are billed on a monthly basis. BALANCED BILLING customers who become net metered customers will be removed from BALANCED BILLING and billed on a monthly basis based upon their energy consumption.

All net sales transactions are based on a ?contract year,? which begins with the date the net meter is installed by LIPA. During the contract year, LIPA?s retail energy rates are applied to the net energy or kilowatt hours that are consumed from LIPA each month. LIPA?s retail rates range from 11.79 cents per kWh to 13.677 cents per kWh and includes the Fuel Purchased Power Cost Adjustment (FPPCA) rate. These rates will vary based upon the season and the amount of energy consumed from LIPA.
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What If My PV System Generates More Energy Than What I Consume From LIPA?
During the month, if a net metered customer generates more energy from their PV system than he/she consumes from LIPA, the customer is billed for the daily service charge only (meter charge) and the excess generation in kilowatt hours (credits) is placed in an ?energy bank?. Energy from the bank can be withdrawn in subsequent months to reduce the net metered customer?s billed consumption during the contract year.

Annually, on the net metered customer?s anniversary date, LIPA will reconcile the energy bank. The total monetary value of the energy bank is calculated to combine the monetary values for each month during the contract year at the rates specified in LIPA?s SC-11 buyback or wholesale avoided cost rate, which is approximately 0.375 cents. This rate will vary upon each season. This total amount of money will be credited to the net metered customer and the customer?s energy bank (in kilowatt hours and dollars) reset to zero and the end of the contract year. Back to top

What If My PV System Produced More Energy Than What I Consumed From LIPA At The End Of The Contract Year?
At the end of the contract year, in the event that the cumulative dollar value is positive (your PV system produced more energy than you consumed from LIPA) end of year reconciliation dollars will be applied as a credit to your LIPA customer account and the energy bank reset to zero. Back to top

What If I Consume More From LIPA Than What My PV System Produces At The End Of The Contract Year?
In the event that the cumulative dollar value is negative at the end of the contract year, (you consumed more from LIPA than your PV system produced) you will be billed that amount by LIPA at the retail rate and the energy bank reset to zero. Back to top

Net Metering for Time-of-Use Customers
As a LIPA Time-of-Use customer, in order to net meter, LIPA requires that you have a second, non-time-differentiated meter wired to your service. Both meters will only be able to record electrical consumption in one direction. The LIPA revenue Time of Use meter will record only the energy provided by LIPA and will be identified as the ?sell meter.? The ?sell? meter will be programmed to record LIPA energy you consume utilizing the appropriate Time-of-Use rate structure. The second meter will be identified as the ?buy meter?. This meter records the amount of kWh energy that you have generated and are selling back to LIPA.

According to LIPA?s billing tariff for residential small solar electric generators (PV systems) who are served under a residential Time of Use Service Classification, LIPA will combine the purchases and sales recorded on the two meters by first offsetting purchases from LIPA during the peak period by the amount sold to LIPA in a given billing period. Any additional energy supplied from the PV system will then be used to offset the off peak period within the same billing period. After satisfying the current billing period, any remaining kWh energy will be carried over to the next billing period and will be used to offset LIPA energy rates. All net sales transactions are based on a ?contract year,? which begins with the date the second ?buy? meter is installed by LIPA. At the end of the contract year, LIPA will adjust any remaining energy credits at LIPA?s SC-11 Buyback or wholesale avoided cost rate, which is approximately 0.375 cents. This rate will vary upon each season. The total amount of money will be credited to the Time of Use net metered customer account and the customer?s account reset to zero at the end of the contract year.
 
Arguing over the net energy usage of solar versus non-solar energy is a lot like arguing over global warming or ethanol. Any one can dig up statistics to "prove" any case they want. those with a political bent toward the left tend to favor alternative energy, as do those with an economic interest in it.

There are very few cases where it is truly more economical to use solar PV systems to supply power to your home UNLESS someone else is footing much of the bill. In most cases, that someone is the rest of your fellow citizens, as the money to subsidize these things is coming from the pockets of taxpayers. Ironic that mostly wealthier people take advantage of this kind of welfare program.

The time value of money is such that if you cannot recover the capital cost of the system within about 7 years through the reduction of electricity usage, it is not really economical. Thus there really is no such thing as a 27 year payback. When someone says that, it really means you lost a lot of money.

Even then, there are often specious assumptions built in to such analysis. One common one is that the equipment will function without the need for repair or replacement indefinitely.

If you are off grid, and have to have batteries for use of electricity during low or no sun periods (about 18-20 hours per day on average), not only does the capital cost skyrocket, but the batteries themselves become an enormous ongoing expenditure. Over the life of the system, it can cost you 30-50 cents for each kw-hr of electricity you store in your battery system.
 
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