SPLIT BUS PANEL

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HI
I AM LOOKING FOR A SPLIT BUS PANEL

CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE NOW REQUIRES COMMERCIAL SPACE TO HAVE THE LOADS AGGREGATED;

DIFFERENT PANELS FOR: LIGHTS , POWER OUTLETS RECEPTACLES AND AC UNITS

TANX
 
Split-buss panels are no longer permitted by the NEC (other than existing) 408.36 in the '08
 
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HI
HAVE MANY 1-POLE BREAKER I CAN HAVE IN THE UPPER BUS OF SPLIT PANEL ?????
(IF i AM ALLOWED TO USED IT)

TANX
 
Read what exception 1 to 408.36 says carefully. The typical split bus you used to see in small "loadcenters" where there is space for 6 mains and one or more of them supply second bus structure in same panel - is what is no longer acceptable, and possibly a few other configurations once available.

Here is a link to something fairly new that some may possibly call a "split bus panel", but it does comply with the requirements in 408.36 exception 1. Good picture on page 7 of one bus section that is separate from the main bus section, but both sections are supplied by same main - which they did a poor job of showing in that photo - there is no supply (main breaker or main lug) in that photo, but I'd say it would need to be supplied with a "main" breaker in one of the I-Line positions, you could find a main lug adapter to plug on I-Line bus structure, but then you would have all remaining I-Line spaces plus all the QO/NF spaces in the left section as "mains" and a clear violation of six disconnect rule if this is service equipment or the main panel of a feeder supplied building.

Getting back to OP though what is the purpose for different panels? How does different panels for lights, receptacles, or other loads make them more energy efficient?

I can understand different sources having some benefits, but if that is what you are after the panel I posted a link to or even the old typical split bus panel are not working so well with multiple sources feeding them anyway.

Also remember that a panelboard and a cabinet are not the same thing - I guess you could have multiple "panelboards" in the same cabinet - which really IMO is pretty much is what we have in the link I provided
 
I am curious as to why they made a split bus panel non compliant. Anyone know the reason for this

IDK, but I think if it were still allowed we at least would be required to somehow indicate that not all power is removed from the premises unless all the "mains" are opened.

I kind of still think the marking now required for 1-6 allowed disconnects is confusing for some electricians, and even more so for non electricians. I'm actually a little surprised we are not required to mark these more clearly then just a label that says "service disconnect" to indicate that all (up to six) need to be operated to kill all power to a building.

I have also seen those "service disconnect" labels applied in many places that are not "service disconnecting means", indicating the installer has no clue what those labels are actually for, let alone other users of the facility.
 
I agree that the 6 disconnect rule is a bit odd in lieu of all the safety rules that are being implemented. How do you turn the power off the the panel? You can't. The lugs and bus is always energized unless you pull the meter (in some cases)... IMO, it would be better to limit each panel to one disconnect so that just the service conductors are hot. It would also be good if there were some way to box in the lugs so that accidental contact is either minimized or not possible.

I believe in Canada the main breaker for a panel is in a different compartment so that you will not be able to accidentally make contact with it unless you open that area.
 
Here is a pic of a canadian service panel.

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HI
I AM LOOKING FOR A SPLIT BUS PANEL

CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE NOW REQUIRES COMMERCIAL SPACE TO HAVE THE LOADS AGGREGATED;

DIFFERENT PANELS FOR: LIGHTS , POWER OUTLETS RECEPTACLES AND AC UNITS

TANX

Contact Seimens. They making one just for CA energy code rules. The require that an occupant have the ability to measure how much power the above load types are consuming.

The split bus name is a misnomer. Picture a standard paperboard. Divide the spaces in thirds and at the division points, take out a few spaces. This allows future install of CTs to measure power consumption.
 
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