Square D devices

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A bit off topic but I wonder if Schneider is doing what Siemens and Eaton have done & removing established and well known brand names in favor of their own?
 
The OLD Square D used to make wiring devices, I still have a Sq. D GFCI receptacle floating around somewhere. But when the French (Schneider) took over, they dumped the product lines. Schneider in the EU has never stopped selling wiring devices and is in fact one of the largest suppliers, so I guess they just decided to get back into it here.
 
Interesting. Not a very broad range, looks residential only. Marketing collaterial clearly pandering to the Gen Z bunch "I'll never own a home but my $3500/mo studio apartment has fancy light switches"
 
Back in the 70s and 80s, Square D owned Bell and Rodale for devices. They were on of the first manufacturers to offer a GFCI receptacle. Their's was built into a standard duplex format rather than a rectangular style. The buttons took up 1 opening, so it was really a single receptacle, but it was shallow.

About 20 years ago Schneider bought the Legrand(?) line of devices but the EU forced them to divest it. They also had the Clipsal line of lighting control.
 
jim dungar said:
Back in the 70s and 80s, Square D owned Bell and Rodale for devices. They were on of the first manufacturers to offer a GFCI receptacle. Their's was built into a standard duplex format rather than a rectangular style. The buttons took up 1 opening, so it was really a single receptacle, but it was shallow.

About 20 years ago Schneider bought the Legrand(?) line of devices but the EU forced them to divest it. They also had the Clipsal line of lighting control.
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Square D just couldn't seem to make a go of it here with Clipsal. Are they still selling it in other parts of the world? I know it used to be pretty big in Australia.
 
jaylectricity said:
I'd like to see them get arc-fault breakers back on the shelf first.
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I'd want a short body AF like Siemens and Eaton makes. Their's (SD) take up so much gutter space it makes it hard to get a pretty box especially with all those pigtails. SD PONs are a little better but not much, just no tails but it needs a PON style box.
 
Fred B said:
I'd want a short body AF like Siemens and Eaton makes. Their's (SD) take up so much gutter space it makes it hard to get a pretty box especially with all those pigtails. SD PONs are a little better but not much, just no tails but it needs a PON style box.
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I've always hated that. Why do they need all that extra space? Every other brand only takes up the same space as a regular breaker. And not just the space taken up, but having to curl about an inch of conductor from the edge of the panel until it lands on the breaker.
 
jaylectricity said:
I've always hated that. Why do they need all that extra space? Every other brand only takes up the same space as a regular breaker. And not just the space taken up, but having to curl about an inch of conductor from the edge of the panel until it lands on the breaker.
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I also hate this 😠 , yet for some reason I still use home line for resi. I keep threatening to switch because of those stupid breakers but keep putting it off.

Edit. I will say I haven't had a single problem with afci nuisance trips in 8 years, just a few that were my fault.
 
Square D always made great products so I would trust them and gladly give them a try. At IAEI classes I sit next to a Square D engineer and asked a few times over the years how Schneider is treating SqD. He said they never cut back on quality.
 
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