19billdobaggy
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- Location
- Indianapolis, IN
- Occupation
- Master Electrician, commercial service
Hello all, first time post but I've been reading the forums for some time. I'm primarily a service electrician, but my company is beginning to dive in to new construction. Today I marked out the install of an 800 amp EZ meter-pak service on a 2 tenant building. Two 4" conduits are bringing parallel 500s into the bottom of the center section, which is simply lugs for the grounded and ungrounded conductors.
The left section plugs into the center section, you bolt the busses together, and 3 small bolts secure cabinet to cabinet. This left section has a 100 amp 3ph breaker and meter for the house panel, as well as a 200 amp 3ph breaker and meter for the retail space. There are 2 lugs for grounded conductors, and 2 lugs for grounding conductors. No bonding strap provided.
The right section plugs in and bolts up the same way. It has a 400 amp 3ph breaker and meter for the (maybe) breakfast restaurant. Knowing we would be running parallels, this section also has 2 lugs for grounded conductors, and 2 lugs for grounding conductors. Here a bonding strap was provided to connect the grounded conductor lugs to the can.
I'm going through the codebook and handbook trying to figure out what grounding/bonding requirements I will have here. The inspector was useless, he said for anything over 600 amps they just refer to the drawings. The only thing the drawings say regarding grounding is "grounding shall consist of copper conductors in conduit with bolted or brazed connection to each illustration below for the ground. Grounding and bonding shall comply with NEC articles 230 and 250. All metallic raceways shall be grounded." The "illustration below" shows concrete encased electrode, building steel, water service piping, ground rods, and ground ring, all connected to a #3 awg cu conductor. I can easily do ground rods, I can easily do concrete encased as the inner slab is not yet poured, and I can easily do structural steel. All of the water piping visible is plastic. The exterior is graded and landscaped so I don't see a ring being an option. I had in my head that you just had to utilize 2 of the acceptable grounding electrodes? I've done smaller services in the past with just structural steel and ground rods and never had an issue with any inspector. So that's one question...
Next, am I missing a bonding strap in the left section? The six small bolts that connect the 3 sections together can't be an acceptable connection... moving on...
This is definitely 1 service. Multiple meters. Because it is one service, all gec's would tie together as 1 grounding system, yes? One structural steel ground? One concrete encased electrode? One set of ground rods? All tied together at a common point? I'm stuck thinking that I'm missing a bonding strap in that left cabinet. I don't think I need to run 1 of everything for each side because it is one service, but I do need the left and right sections to be securely bonded to each other. If I add a strap in the left section, the grounding lugs would be bonded to the grounded conductor busbar, which runs through the middle section to the right section, where the bonding strap connects its grounding lugs to the grounded conductor busbar.
I know. It's a lot. I've always been more of a fixer than an installer, but I take pride in my work and I want to get this right and understand the how and why. I'm happy to provide more info and I will look up any applicable code articles. I've been cruising 250 this evening. Thanks in advance!
The left section plugs into the center section, you bolt the busses together, and 3 small bolts secure cabinet to cabinet. This left section has a 100 amp 3ph breaker and meter for the house panel, as well as a 200 amp 3ph breaker and meter for the retail space. There are 2 lugs for grounded conductors, and 2 lugs for grounding conductors. No bonding strap provided.
The right section plugs in and bolts up the same way. It has a 400 amp 3ph breaker and meter for the (maybe) breakfast restaurant. Knowing we would be running parallels, this section also has 2 lugs for grounded conductors, and 2 lugs for grounding conductors. Here a bonding strap was provided to connect the grounded conductor lugs to the can.
I'm going through the codebook and handbook trying to figure out what grounding/bonding requirements I will have here. The inspector was useless, he said for anything over 600 amps they just refer to the drawings. The only thing the drawings say regarding grounding is "grounding shall consist of copper conductors in conduit with bolted or brazed connection to each illustration below for the ground. Grounding and bonding shall comply with NEC articles 230 and 250. All metallic raceways shall be grounded." The "illustration below" shows concrete encased electrode, building steel, water service piping, ground rods, and ground ring, all connected to a #3 awg cu conductor. I can easily do ground rods, I can easily do concrete encased as the inner slab is not yet poured, and I can easily do structural steel. All of the water piping visible is plastic. The exterior is graded and landscaped so I don't see a ring being an option. I had in my head that you just had to utilize 2 of the acceptable grounding electrodes? I've done smaller services in the past with just structural steel and ground rods and never had an issue with any inspector. So that's one question...
Next, am I missing a bonding strap in the left section? The six small bolts that connect the 3 sections together can't be an acceptable connection... moving on...
This is definitely 1 service. Multiple meters. Because it is one service, all gec's would tie together as 1 grounding system, yes? One structural steel ground? One concrete encased electrode? One set of ground rods? All tied together at a common point? I'm stuck thinking that I'm missing a bonding strap in that left cabinet. I don't think I need to run 1 of everything for each side because it is one service, but I do need the left and right sections to be securely bonded to each other. If I add a strap in the left section, the grounding lugs would be bonded to the grounded conductor busbar, which runs through the middle section to the right section, where the bonding strap connects its grounding lugs to the grounded conductor busbar.
I know. It's a lot. I've always been more of a fixer than an installer, but I take pride in my work and I want to get this right and understand the how and why. I'm happy to provide more info and I will look up any applicable code articles. I've been cruising 250 this evening. Thanks in advance!