mjenkins16
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topic in class tonight was tailing out what that means is they say we have to tie the nuetrals in the box and just the hots on the rec so the current on a branch circuit is not all flowing through the rec
still trying
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davedottcom
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Re: still trying
First let me say this. Welcome to the forum but you need to use a little commom courtesy when posting. This isn't ask Geeves! You don't always get a response 2 seconds after you post.
And a little tact might help too!
Now, you may "Pig tail" your feeds to the recps if you want to. You don't have to unless they are on a multiwire circuit or sometimes the "Feed through" rating on the device may require you to pig tail. Other than those reasons, your local AHJ might require it.
Hope that answers all 3 of your posts!
Dave
First let me say this. Welcome to the forum but you need to use a little commom courtesy when posting. This isn't ask Geeves! You don't always get a response 2 seconds after you post.
And a little tact might help too!
Now, you may "Pig tail" your feeds to the recps if you want to. You don't have to unless they are on a multiwire circuit or sometimes the "Feed through" rating on the device may require you to pig tail. Other than those reasons, your local AHJ might require it.
Hope that answers all 3 of your posts!
Dave
allenwayne
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Re: still trying
Pinellas county florida required all joints pig tailed for a long time but that stopped and IMHO that was a mistake
Pinellas county florida required all joints pig tailed for a long time but that stopped and IMHO that was a mistake
allenwayne
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Re: still trying
meany to add eveb 2 wire circuits
meany to add eveb 2 wire circuits
hurk27
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Re: still trying
mjenkins16 I believe 300.13(B) is what your looking for. The reason for this requirement is if a device is removed that causes the neutral connection to be taken apart the voltage balance between each hot leg and neutral will be lost in a multiwire circuit. This can cause damage to equipment and even could cause a fire as the voltage on the lightly loaded circuit will go up and the voltage on the heavy loaded circuit will go down.
So to be compliant it is required to make the connection between neutrals before the connection to the device, this way if the device is removed the neutral is still intact.
This requirement is only for multiwire circuits.
Welcome to the forum and keep learning.
[ September 14, 2005, 02:41 AM: Message edited by: hurk27 ]
mjenkins16 I believe 300.13(B) is what your looking for. The reason for this requirement is if a device is removed that causes the neutral connection to be taken apart the voltage balance between each hot leg and neutral will be lost in a multiwire circuit. This can cause damage to equipment and even could cause a fire as the voltage on the lightly loaded circuit will go up and the voltage on the heavy loaded circuit will go down.
So to be compliant it is required to make the connection between neutrals before the connection to the device, this way if the device is removed the neutral is still intact.
This requirement is only for multiwire circuits.
Welcome to the forum and keep learning.
[ September 14, 2005, 02:41 AM: Message edited by: hurk27 ]
jwelectric
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Re: still trying
Case in point,
Hello my name is Mike. I am addicted to this forum. Why else would I be on it at 3:50 AM?
Answer: I am worried about Sam
After posting the same question three times one might wonder why they are being ignored.
Case in point,
Now should this person that is surely a student change his profile to reflect this fact not only would he get a better response he gain more respect from some.
Hello my name is Mike. I am addicted to this forum. Why else would I be on it at 3:50 AM?
Answer: I am worried about Sam
pierre
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Re: still trying
Mike
I am not picking on you, but aren't we all students?
You know the answer to some questions that I do not, I know the answer to some you do not. We all have some contribution here.
What I have learned as an inspector, which I am going to use to help, is that there is so much missunderstanding out there that we all will ask "stupid" questions sometimes, as that is how we were taught.
As far as the poster having patience, he will learn this forum can be a hard lot.
Mike
I am not picking on you, but aren't we all students?
You know the answer to some questions that I do not, I know the answer to some you do not. We all have some contribution here.
What I have learned as an inspector, which I am going to use to help, is that there is so much missunderstanding out there that we all will ask "stupid" questions sometimes, as that is how we were taught.
As far as the poster having patience, he will learn this forum can be a hard lot.
jwelectric
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Re: still trying
Thank you for helping keep me straight.
Mom (Bob) seems to have vanished and left me all alone in my hour of need.
What are all of us web babies going to do with out our Mom?
Thank you for helping keep me straight.
Mom (Bob) seems to have vanished and left me all alone in my hour of need.
What are all of us web babies going to do with out our Mom?
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Re: still trying
Okay, the 'Mom' thing is starting to creep me out.
Okay, the 'Mom' thing is starting to creep me out.
jwelectric
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Re: still trying
Originally posted by georgestolz:
Okay, the 'Mom' thing is starting to creep me out.
Re: still trying
I must say, I think the Web Mom thing has run its course also.
If this site would have some voluntary way for the members to offer a phone number for emergency purposes, we could choose to have it as a true Web Mom, but I no one person could begin to handle this type of task.
Roger
I must say, I think the Web Mom thing has run its course also.
If this site would have some voluntary way for the members to offer a phone number for emergency purposes, we could choose to have it as a true Web Mom, but I no one person could begin to handle this type of task.
Roger
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Re: still trying
I don't think anyone wants to hold that.
24,716 members as of 9/14 - 8AM.
I don't think anyone wants to hold that.
jwelectric
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Re: still trying
Does this mean that I have to stop calling Bob Mom?
I must say that it does feel a little strange calling an old man Mom.
How about Dad? Can I call him Dad? I am 54 and he is ? Maybe this wouldn?t work either.
Okay I see that this just is not going to work out so I guess it is back to Iwire or Bob.
Does this mean that I have to stop calling Bob Mom?
I must say that it does feel a little strange calling an old man Mom.
How about Dad? Can I call him Dad? I am 54 and he is ? Maybe this wouldn?t work either.
Okay I see that this just is not going to work out so I guess it is back to Iwire or Bob.
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- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
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Re: still trying
So (looking around the cafe, empty coffee cup in hand), how do we get some service in this joint?
It would be cool if the moderators could research this and see if there's a feasible way of doing it.
What was the deal with the hacking of the old forum? Culling e-mail addresses?
Given that our e-mail addresses here are invisible to other members, I believe phone numbers would be safe as well.
P.S. Hey Mike, here's your sign.
So (looking around the cafe, empty coffee cup in hand), how do we get some service in this joint?
It would be cool if the moderators could research this and see if there's a feasible way of doing it.
What was the deal with the hacking of the old forum? Culling e-mail addresses?
Given that our e-mail addresses here are invisible to other members, I believe phone numbers would be safe as well.
P.S. Hey Mike, here's your sign.
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Re: still trying
You where probably just finishing eighth grade when I popped out.
jwelectric
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