Rjsutt
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I have a receptacle right under my panel can I drop a homerun to it without strapping? It’s about 4-5 in below it
Strapping NM from box to box
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Nope. Personally I would use an offset nipple but NM can be used when properly secured.
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kwired
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If there is a clamp securing it to both panel and outlet box I don't see why not. Each end requires securing within 12 inches, you have less than 12 inches between each clamp which is a securing method. Any inspector that wants to read between the lines here needs flogged, with a 4 foot piece of 12-2 NM cable.
If it is a 1 gang box with no clamps it needs secured within 8 inches. Clamp on the entry to panel is still securing it within 8 inches in OP's description.
If it is a 1 gang box with no clamps it needs secured within 8 inches. Clamp on the entry to panel is still securing it within 8 inches in OP's description.
Rjsutt
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Is a plastic romex grommet considered a clamp? or does it need to be a metal squeeze connector?
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If it is a grommet then no but they have plastic connectors
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What wording 334.30 allows the NM connect to support and secure the cable within 12" of the box or panel? I agree it's bogus but it's still required.
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My assumption is that the panel was surface mounted but from the OP I guess that it could be recessed.
kwired
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kwired
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What wording prohibits it? There is no specific method of securing/support mentioned. Some places might have their own rules of what they accept
but NEC is pretty open on what can provide this.
Even if it is NM,,,, and the receptacle needs to be directly below the panel within 4 or 5 inches,,,, and you want to use materials you already have,,,, and the panel is surface mounted,,,, and your worried about strapping the NM,,,,, why not just butt the romex connectors together at the top of the receptacle box and bottom of the panel where there's no NM to be seen?
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kwired
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Now those that insist there must be a completely separate support method within 12" from each end of the run will have their heads explode.
Add: this is as stupid as those that think a 3 foot or less RMC nipple between two enclosures needs a strap on it.
Say one has two cabinets with a 3" RMC 3 feet long between them. You really think putting a strap on that is securing anything? Bet I can take a hammer to it and pretty much destroy the strap and will only put a few scratches in the RMC.
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growler
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Who would have thought electrical work could be so complicated. I knew I should have went to law school where things are simple.
kwired
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I'd never do that on a loadcenter cover. Some commercial panelboards with a hinged cover may be a little more worth consideration in some situations, but still lean more toward no most of the time. If surface mounted I'd rather put something in the side vs the cover.
If I did put something in the cover I'd seriously consider some in line plug to be able to quickly disconnect it when removing the cover.
After being in the industrial field all my career, talking about these small issues like
I will have to say, it's almost embarrassing to even talk about this kind of stuff when coming from an industrial electrical background.
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Now those that insist there must be a completely separate support method within 12" from each end of the run will have their heads explode.
Add: this is as stupid as those that think a 3 foot or less RMC nipple between two enclosures needs a strap on it.
Say one has two cabinets with a 3" RMC 3 feet long between them. You really think putting a strap on that is securing anything? Bet I can take a hammer to it and pretty much destroy the strap and will only put a few scratches in the RMC.
I will have to say, it's almost embarrassing to even talk about this kind of stuff when coming from an industrial electrical background.
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