String lights.

[electricalist]

Lighting submittal calls for string lights in breeze way, 12' to where they will be attached.
I asked for installation instr. They will run 250'. Supplier says they don't come with any..
I don't like liability products.
Sent RFI to architect.
What's typically acceptable for securing and wouldn't take away from the design?

 

[GoldDigger]

Run a separate messenger wire and attach it to the eyes on each socket?

 

[ActionDave]

What's typical is to use zip ties since those lights are for temporary use only.

 

[electricalist]

That's what I thought ,but they were specified by the architect as permanent, but I'm laughing with you and for sure if they expect me to install them as to be permanent I want permanent installation instructions and open bulbs are an even worse idea. No way I'm taking any responsibility for Them.

 

[electricalist]

There's a version that is for permanent installation. I need to research these more.
One version shows hard wired to switch and securing is to be done with non conductive material. Zip ties are what they suggested.

 

[iwire]

There was a post here years ago from an inspector who failed the final of a large bar and grill that tried to use temp lights for permanent use. Not listed for the purpose.

 

[electricalist]

There was a post here years ago from an inspector who failed the final of a large bar and grill that tried to use temp lights for permanent use. Not listed for the purpose.

That's what I'm thinking will happen here. No body in their right mind would sign off on such an install especially an ahj.

 

[George Stolz]

I've installed them. They are listed for the use. Zip ties, messenger wire, use mouthwash, move on.

Edit to add: http://www.tivolilighting.com/Products/ARCH_Products_/Strand_Lighting/Litesphere_LED.aspx

 

[iwire]

I've installed them. They are listed for the use. Zip ties, messenger wire, use mouthwash, move on.

Edit to add: http://www.tivolilighting.com/Products/ARCH_Products_/Strand_Lighting/Litesphere_LED.aspx

Must depend on the brand?

I tried to find the thread but had no luck. I reached out to Ryan J directly and he recalls it being almost 10 years ago. In his case the contractor was using string lights only listed for temp use.

 

[electricalist]

Partylights,com has a cut dheet on commercial grade "light strings" instead of being called string lights,made for permanent install.
Its has a warning the first paragraph that says risk of fire or shock if these instructions are not followed in any way.
Thats a pretty high bar to set with me doing the install.

 

[electricalist]

I did try to post the cut sheet for others to read but it says it's to long when I try.

 

[electricalist]

I did try to post the cut sheet for others to read but it says it's to long when I try.[/QUOTE
http://www.partylights.com/core/media/media.nl?id=4782&c=644086&h=983483d7c0c8ac9e2de3&_xt=.pdf

 

[George Stolz]

That looks pretty typical for every fixture I've ever installed...? :?

 

[electricalist]

Sorry Mr. George that's not the right link