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Electron_Sam78

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Anyone have any ideas on how to install a circuit for a sump pump that is outside and too far away from the house to reach a receptacle mounted on the wall? No posts allowed to stick up as it is in the middle of a yard area where people will be walking and kids running around. It's 10 feet from pit to side of house and the pump is 5 ft down. I was thinking about cutting off the plug end and doing a waterproof splice and making it a hard wired unit so I could run it in conduit underground to the house. I could legally use a flexible cord to do it according to code since it is a piece of equipment that has to be removed occasionally correct?
 
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Electron_Sam78 said:
Anyone have any ideas on how to install a circuit for a sump pump that is outside and too far away from the house to reach a receptacle mounted on the wall? No posts allowed to stick up as it is in the middle of a yard area where people will be walking and kids running around. It's 10 feet from pit to side of house and the pump is 5 ft down. I was thinking about cutting off the plug end and doing a waterproof splice and making it a hard wired unit so I could run it in conduit underground to the house. I could legally use a flexible cord to do it according to code since it is a piece of equipment that has to be removed occasionally correct?
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IMO, your only option is to install an outlet at the pump. You certainly can make it strong enough and worse case install a large plastic jb and put the recep. in there so the kids can't play with it.
 
Buck Parrish

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Electron_Sam78 said:
Anyone have any ideas on how to install a circuit for a sump pump that is outside and too far away from the house to reach a receptacle mounted on the wall? No posts allowed to stick up as it is in the middle of a yard area where people will be walking and kids running around. It's 10 feet from pit to side of house and the pump is 5 ft down. I was thinking about cutting off the plug end and doing a waterproof splice and making it a hard wired unit so I could run it in conduit underground to the house. I could legally use a flexible cord to do it according to code since it is a piece of equipment that has to be removed occasionally correct?
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I have seen outlets on the inside of the tank.
But the best way to go is to either have an outlet mounted on a post with bushes around it or the outlet on the house. With the connectors you have described .

They do make pumps with long cords.
 
e57

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An outlet in a christy box underground.... So long as the conduit were above the water level. - Fed by a GFI device somplace else...

But I'm also not opposed to lopping the cord end off - and using an appropriate seal-able strain relief sized for the cord to a box above grade or in a cristy box. - Fed by a GFI device somplace else...

If it were a fountain - Then to a submersible junction box w/ potting compound right there in the fountain - fed by a GFI device somplace else... But of course that is gonna cost some money.... :D
 
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e57 said:
But I'm also not opposed to lopping the cord end off - and using an appropriate seal-able strain relief sized for the cord to a box above grade or in a cristy box. - Fed by a GFI device somplace else...
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I don't like messing with the UL listing of a product, however, I know an EC who cut the plugs off the pumps for a septic pump system. What he didn't know was that one of the cords was designed with a breather cord. Not sure what that did other than take toxic fumes out of the tank.
 
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Electron_Sam78 said:
... it is a piece of equipment that has to be removed occasionally ...
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then 400.7(B) won't allow us to go around
e57 said:
... lopping the cord end off - and using an appropriate seal-able strain relief sized for the cord to a box above grade or in a cristy box. - Fed by a GFI device somplace else...
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But if the question is
Electron_Sam78 said:
How did you run the cord? In conduit underground? Was there a plug on the end that had to go through conduit?
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then a 2" conduit and a long cord should allow the plug to pass through.
 
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