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JOHNEO99 said:
what about disconnect?

422.16 (B) Specific Appliances.
(1) Electrically Operated Kitchen Waste Disposers. Electrically operated kitchen waste disposers shall be permitted to be cord-and-plug connected with a flexible cord identified as suitable for the purpose in the installation instructions of the appliance manufacturer, where all of the following conditions are met.
(1) The flexible cord shall be terminated with a grounding-type attachment plug.
Exception: A listed kitchen waste disposer distinctly marked to identify it as protected by a system of double insulation, or its equivalent, shall not be required to be terminated with a grounding-type attachment plug.
(2) The length of the cord shall not be less than 450 mm (18 in.) and not over 900 mm (36 in.).
(3) Receptacles shall be located to avoid physical damage to the flexible cord.
(4) The receptacle shall be accessible.
 
JOHNEO99 said:
what about disconnect?
So what about a disconnect? Go ahead and provide one. It need not necessarily be a switch. Most people puts cords on disposers, nowadays. There is no specific requirement for a switch.
 
JOHNEO99 said:
what about disconnect?


If it is not switched why put a disconnect? It won't work any how. Or it will be on all the time.
 
Uh, ohh.....

Uh, ohh.....

If it is not switched why put a disconnect? It won't work any how. Or it will be on all the time.

Not necessarily. For quite some time, disposals were made in what was called "batch feed" operation. You removed the stopper, put in the food, then replaced the stopper and gave it a twist to start the disposal.

However, I don't think they're all that common anymore.

Just watch out for this pitfall:


http://www.mikeholt.com/code_forum/showthread.php?t=80006
 
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mxslick said:
Not necessarily. For quite some time, disposals were made in what was called "batch feed" operation. You removed the stopper, put in the food, then replaced the stopper and gave it a twist to start the disposal.

The cool thing I am seeing alot lately is air switches in the counter to control the G.D. it is small clean and works well in the cut outs in the sink also.
 
acrwc10 said:
mxslick said:
Not necessarily. For quite some time, disposals were made in what was called "batch feed" operation. You removed the stopper, put in the food, then replaced the stopper and gave it a twist to start the disposal.

The cool thing I am seeing alot lately is air switches in the counter to control the G.D. it is small clean and works well in the cut outs in the sink also.

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The air switch may be cool but it is something else to go bad that will be expensive and a hassel to change out. The wall switch is my vote.

I am not sure what size motor a disposal has but aren't there requirements for motors with certain hp to have a disconnect. I put a disconnect on all motors , fans etc.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
I am not sure what size motor a disposal has but aren't there requirements for motors with certain hp to have a disconnect.

Motors larger than 1/8 HP must have a disconnecting means.

422.31 and 422.32
 
Dennis Alwon said:
The air switch may be cool but it is something else to go bad that will be expensive and a hassel to change out. The wall switch is my vote.

I am not sure what size motor a disposal has but aren't there requirements for motors with certain hp to have a disconnect. I put a disconnect on all motors , fans etc.

The air switch unit plugs into a receptacle, The wall switch is great till the owner installs the sink in an island... :) It's an opinion for the HO to make as being expensive... for me just something else to sell them...:)
 
stickboy1375 said:
The air switch unit plugs into a receptacle, The wall switch is great till the owner installs the sink in an island... :) It's an opinion for the HO to make as being expensive... for me just something else to sell them...:)

The problem is that the plumber usually is the one that supplies the disposal with the air switch (at least around here) but when it doesn't work I have to go service it. Yes it is more money but I would rather not have the headaches. The only one I ever wired I got called back because the line got kinked. I got enough to do without those call backs.
 
If I wired the unit and I get called that it isn't working then it may be an electrical thing. At that point I would say call the plummer but I still have to check it out. I also find it hard to charge a good customer for a service call who just spent 30,000 dollars on their electrical. It like a warranty thing. I know many have no problem charging but I usually don't under the warranty period.
 
Disconnect?

Disconnect?

You don't need a disconnect for a garbage disposal unless it is hard wired...just like a dishwasher. See NEC 422.33 (A). For cord and plug connected appliances...an accessible plug and recepticle shall be permitted to serve as the disconnecting means.
 
bstoin said:
You don't need a disconnect for a garbage disposal unless it is hard wired...just like a dishwasher. See NEC 422.33 (A). For cord and plug connected appliances...an accessible plug and recepticle shall be permitted to serve as the disconnecting means.
jwelectric said:
422.16 (B) Specific Appliances.
(1) Electrically Operated Kitchen Waste Disposers.
Electrically operated kitchen waste disposers shall be permitted to be cord-and-plug connected with a flexible cord identified as suitable for the purpose in the installation instructions of the appliance manufacturer, where all of the following conditions are met.
(1) The flexible cord shall be terminated with a grounding-type attachment plug.
Exception: A listed kitchen waste disposer distinctly marked to identify it as protected by a system of double insulation, or its equivalent, shall not be required to be terminated with a grounding-type attachment plug.
(2) The length of the cord shall not be less than 450 mm (18 in.) and not over 900 mm (36 in.).
(3) Receptacles shall be located to avoid physical damage to the flexible cord.
(4) The receptacle shall be accessible.
422.16 (B) is the proper article to cite, not 422.33 (A).


But tell me, what makes the GD go round and round when you want it to and not all the time?
;)
 
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