switch or receptacle location
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russ
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Re: switch or receptacle location
2002 NEC
404.4 receptacle
406.8 (C) switch
They can be next to the tub or shower area but not in it.
I consider the tile area right above the tube as in the tub area.
Russ
[ March 30, 2003, 01:19 AM: Message edited by: russ ]
2002 NEC
404.4 receptacle
406.8 (C) switch
They can be next to the tub or shower area but not in it.
I consider the tile area right above the tube as in the tub area.
Russ
[ March 30, 2003, 01:19 AM: Message edited by: russ ]
george t. everett
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Re: switch or receptacle location
smokes shound not be on a dedicated circuit.
smokes shound not be on a dedicated circuit.
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Re: switch or receptacle location
In a bedrooom dwelling unit smoke detector ouotlets must be AFCI protected per the 2002 NEC. This typically will be one of the AFCI circuits for other outlets.
In a bedrooom dwelling unit smoke detector ouotlets must be AFCI protected per the 2002 NEC. This typically will be one of the AFCI circuits for other outlets.
bphgravity
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Re: switch or receptacle location
I can see both sides to this issue. As long as the dedicated circuit is AFCI protected for the bedroom smokes, the smokes can be connected this way. However, if this circuit were to ever open, all the smokes will be dead. This should not be a problem if installed with battery backup that has good batteries. On the other hand, if the smokes are connected to the nearest circuit available, if any one of these circuits were to go dead, the other smokes on other circuits would still be energized. The interconnection should cover this problem. I think it comes down to a design preference.
I can see both sides to this issue. As long as the dedicated circuit is AFCI protected for the bedroom smokes, the smokes can be connected this way. However, if this circuit were to ever open, all the smokes will be dead. This should not be a problem if installed with battery backup that has good batteries. On the other hand, if the smokes are connected to the nearest circuit available, if any one of these circuits were to go dead, the other smokes on other circuits would still be energized. The interconnection should cover this problem. I think it comes down to a design preference.
george t. everett
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Re: switch or receptacle location
If th e smokes are on a dedicated circuit, that circuit could be deenergized with out the home owner knowing it. By putting the smokes on a bedroom or hall circuit the owner will know there is a problem. Will a deenergized smoke work thru the interconnect if is feed from an energized smoke? I don't know.
If th e smokes are on a dedicated circuit, that circuit could be deenergized with out the home owner knowing it. By putting the smokes on a bedroom or hall circuit the owner will know there is a problem. Will a deenergized smoke work thru the interconnect if is feed from an energized smoke? I don't know.
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Re: switch or receptacle location
Our company policy is to place smokes on a dedicated circuit,we do about 1500 to 2000 homes a year here.If the circuit trips for what ever reason,then the smokes have battery back up and function as designed,also if the power is removed from the smoke detectors they will chirp continously until power is restored.210.12 requires that all outlets in a bedroom to be arc fault protected ,and a smoke is an outlet as per the def. but the inspectors here do not require them to be arc fault protected go figure?????
Our company policy is to place smokes on a dedicated circuit,we do about 1500 to 2000 homes a year here.If the circuit trips for what ever reason,then the smokes have battery back up and function as designed,also if the power is removed from the smoke detectors they will chirp continously until power is restored.210.12 requires that all outlets in a bedroom to be arc fault protected ,and a smoke is an outlet as per the def. but the inspectors here do not require them to be arc fault protected go figure?????
luke warmwater
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Re: switch or receptacle location
I'm with Allen on the smoke det. issue. We also put smokes on dedicated circut. All smokes will chirp if power goes off. If one battery is dead, then only that smoke will chirp. Also smokes should have an indicator light (usually green) to show power is present, and (usually red) to show power is lost. Isolation of systems seems to cut down on call backs.
I'm with Allen on the smoke det. issue. We also put smokes on dedicated circut. All smokes will chirp if power goes off. If one battery is dead, then only that smoke will chirp. Also smokes should have an indicator light (usually green) to show power is present, and (usually red) to show power is lost. Isolation of systems seems to cut down on call backs.
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