Tandem breaker limitations in service panel

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dm9289

Industrial Maintenance Electrician
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Pennsylvania
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Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
I have a customer with a 16 spot 100A Murray that was full and he wanted to add 4 circuits using tandem breakers. My first thought was what was connected to all these circuits and could a 100A service support this I came up with a calculation of about 82A so this was Ok (alot of split up circuits to avoid or eliminate old knob and tube). Next I suggested a sub-box but do to space and customer preference he did not want this. I could not find anything prohibiting for example filling the whole box with tandems in 2008 NEC am I missing something this just dont seem right? If I did do this would I be required to add a neutral bar so that each wire has its own screw or could I double up putting more than one wire under the neutral bar?
 
You will have to check the U.L. listing of the panel. It should have a maximum number of tandem breakers that can be installed, and a maximum number of circuits that can be installed.
 
Sometimes you just can't do what the customer wants with the money they want to spend. You can't buy a Ferrari with what a Kia costs.

If the panel is full, and won't accept tandems, then a subpanel is about the only option left.
 
Usually the diagram on the inside of the cover will depict if, and how many, tandem CB's can be installed.
 
If this is an 2008 inspection you will need afci breakers and i think they do not make them in tandem. your box should list the number of tandems you can install go with a subpanel
 
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