Taps/ Splicing. After 360 degrees of bends.

[Fordean]

Job has 800 amp service more than the 360 bend limits before Junction box needed to be installed.
Personally I dont like splices unless absolutely needed. Also some jobs spec feeders intact point to point.
When do you install a Tap/splice if feeders permit so.
Moving 500 or 600kmil around isn't fun we all know that. I will add more after comments.

 

[ptonsparky]

We would install as needed. That big of wire I would be inclined to have pull or jbox prior to the 360.

 

[infinity]

There is nothing wrong with splicing feeders if done correctly. If you want the splices to be bullet proof then you can use the compression type. How much more than 360°? With 500's or 600's we would just pull through even though it exceeds 360°'s worth of bends.

 

[Fordean]

There is nothing wrong with splicing feeders if done correctly. If you want the splices to be bullet proof then you can use the compression type. How much more than 360°? With 500's or 600's we would just pull through even though it exceeds 360°'s worth of bends.

The pulling thru part,

A 48x48 Junction box lets just say. 4 bend then At 150 feet. Then continues with another source of bends. Is the a way to pull a wheel feeder in the junction box to pull straight thru. Or I don't believe pulling it out with 5 guys and pulling it back in another direction is fun.

 

[infinity]

The pulling thru part,

A 48x48 Junction box lets just say. 4 bend then At 150 feet. Then continues with another source of bends. Is the a way to pull a wheel feeder in the junction box to pull straight thru. Or I don't believe pulling it out with 5 guys and pulling it back in another direction is fun

I wouldn't pull it out and then pull it back in, in that scenario I would just splice it. Depending on the size of the raceway and the number of bends we will typically pull it in one shot. With 4" EMT we usually pull through seven or eight 90's with no problem.

 

[LarryFine]

I would also try pulling without splicing. With lube (which can be added to at the J-box), a steady pull, and being pushed in at the feed end, it should go well.

The rules say you must include a pull-point; they don't say you have to use it as such, nor make splice there. Just be sure to align the conduits.

 

[ptonsparky]

I would also try pulling without splicing. With lube (which can be added to at the J-box), a steady pull, and being pushed in at the feed end, it should go well.

The rules say you must include a pull-point; they don't say you have to use it as such, nor make splice there. Just be sure to align the conduits.

All this time I thought we were supposed to use them. Where were you 50 years ago?

 

[LarryFine]

All this time I thought we were supposed to use them. Where were you 50 years ago?

Installing pull-points may be required, but using them is optional, in my opinion. Besides, I've never had an inspector watch me pull wires.

Pulling the wires out midway and getting them back in without twists and overlaps can be more trouble than pulling them straight through.

I have installed C-condulets and J-boxes as required by code, and then basically ignored them (other than guiding the fish-tape through).

 

[kwired]

Installing pull-points may be required, but using them is optional, in my opinion. Besides, I've never had an inspector watch me pull wires.

Pulling the wires out midway and getting them back in without twists and overlaps can be more trouble than pulling them straight through.

I have installed C-condulets and J-boxes as required by code, and then basically ignored them (other than guiding the fish-tape through).

If they do you hand them some gloves and tell them to start pulling, hopefully they either help or leave.