telecommunciations ground bus

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bwyllie

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Is it true that a tele ground bus should be connected to the building's electrical ground and also to building steel within the tele closet?
 

charlie tuna

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Re: telecommunciations ground bus

the telephone ground bus is usually connected by a #6 ground wire back to the panel that the telephone equipment recieves it's power from, and connected to this panel's ground bus...
 

al hildenbrand

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Re: telecommunciations ground bus

There's a lot of stuff in 800.40. This is only part of it.
IV. Grounding Methods
800.40 Cable and Primary Protector Grounding.
(D) Bonding of Electrodes.
A bonding jumper not smaller than 6 AWG copper or equivalent shall be connected between the communications grounding electrode and power grounding electrode system at the building or structure served where separate electrodes are used. Bonding together of all separate electrodes shall be permitted.
 

dereckbc

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Re: telecommunciations ground bus

Originally posted by bwyllie:
Is it true that a tele ground bus should be connected to the building's electrical ground and also to building steel within the tele closet?
Yes, if you are installing per ANSI standard J-STD-607-A, section 5.5

You are dealing with two requirements. One is the minimum NEC requirements for safety. The other is performance requirements adopted by the client using ANSI-J-STD-607-A, which meet and exceed NEC requirements.

[ January 10, 2005, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: dereckbc ]
 

bwyllie

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Re: telecommunciations ground bus

I would like to install for the ANSI-J-STD-607-A requirements. However they are trying to VE certain items and this is one of them, the contractor has recommened just bonding each tele ground bus to the building steel within the rooms and I did not think that was what the standard is.
 

dereckbc

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By VE I assume you mean value engineered. If you are certain the building steel is effectively bonded together and bonded to the service ground, then it would work. The building steel exhibits a lower impedance point-to-point than any cable is capable of.

The point of ANSI 607-A is to offer multiple planned and unplanned paths. The cable is a planned path, where as building steel, pipes, raceways are uncertain.
 

marionette

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I can be corrected, but the NEC requirements for grounding are to an approved ground (the electrical grounding system). The secondary grounding can be made to the steel, pipes, etc.

By VE'ing the grounding to the electrical system, you could be violating the NEC.

The recommended gounding method would be to ground all telecom equipment and infrastructure (conduits and cable trays and ladder racks) to the TGB in the room and the TMGB gounded to the MAIN electrical service ground, in addition to building steel at the telecom room.
 
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