Texas Licensing - Part 2
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texassparky
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There are no State required ratios, but some local ones depending where you are working.
crossman gary
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There are no ratios for JWs to Apprentices in Texas as Texasparky says. (but prevailing wage jobs and certain jurisdictions may have ratios)
Not only that, an apprentice in Texas doesn't have to be in an apprentice program. There is also no limit on how long a person can be an apprentice.
If a person can pay $20 and can pass a vague and not very strict background check, then that person can be an "apprentice."
You can even get an apprentice license with a falsified SS#.
Here are some stats I remeber from the TDLR website from awhile back. Don't quote me on this, as, like I said, this is from my memory. If you want exact figures, go find them.
In Harris County, TX, which is essentially the city of Houston, 4th (3rd?)largest city in the country, there are about 25,000 licensed electricians. Of this number, there are only 6,000 JW licenses. That leaves 19,000 apprentices. Stats in the surrounding counties are at similar ratios, although much smaller numbers.
Most electricians in Texas will never obtain a JW license. There isn't much point in it to tell you the truth. An apprentice can do just about anything a JW license allows, except being the first person on the job. One JW, and 100 apprentice licenses on the job is okay by the state.
Having a JW license means you pay $45 a year instead of $20 and the JW has to take an annual update class. The apprentice doesn't. Hence, lifetime apprentices. Why pay $75 for the JW test, study, pass the test, all for the "right" to pay a higher fee and pay for an update class each year.
And, once a person passes the test, a person has to jump through hoops proving their prior history to get the license. And if you did most of your work out of state, where no licensing was required, good luck on proving your work history.
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Not only that, an apprentice in Texas doesn't have to be in an apprentice program. There is also no limit on how long a person can be an apprentice.
If a person can pay $20 and can pass a vague and not very strict background check, then that person can be an "apprentice."
You can even get an apprentice license with a falsified SS#.
Here are some stats I remeber from the TDLR website from awhile back. Don't quote me on this, as, like I said, this is from my memory. If you want exact figures, go find them.
In Harris County, TX, which is essentially the city of Houston, 4th (3rd?)largest city in the country, there are about 25,000 licensed electricians. Of this number, there are only 6,000 JW licenses. That leaves 19,000 apprentices. Stats in the surrounding counties are at similar ratios, although much smaller numbers.
Most electricians in Texas will never obtain a JW license. There isn't much point in it to tell you the truth. An apprentice can do just about anything a JW license allows, except being the first person on the job. One JW, and 100 apprentice licenses on the job is okay by the state.
Having a JW license means you pay $45 a year instead of $20 and the JW has to take an annual update class. The apprentice doesn't. Hence, lifetime apprentices. Why pay $75 for the JW test, study, pass the test, all for the "right" to pay a higher fee and pay for an update class each year.
And, once a person passes the test, a person has to jump through hoops proving their prior history to get the license. And if you did most of your work out of state, where no licensing was required, good luck on proving your work history.
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moderators, please delete if this is out of line
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To: Texas Electrical Licensing Stakeholders
Re: New Texas Electrician Examinations and Testing Service
The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation would like to announce that it has entered into a new contract with PSI to develop, maintain and deliver licensing examinations.
This new contract, the resulting examinations and a new application process will change how electricians get licensed in Texas. A summary of the changes can be found below. These changes go into effect on September 1, 2009.
1. VERY IMPORTANT: ICC examinations taken on or after September 1, 2009 will NOT be accepted for Texas electrician licensing.
2. Instead of taking the examination and then applying to the department for a license, electricians will first make application to the department and then, if they are eligible, will be notified by mail that they may make an appointment to sit for their examination.
3. PSI will deliver new Texas electrician examinations at 17 sites around the state. See www.psiexams.com for additional information about PSI. These new TDLR examinations have been developed by Texas electrician subject matter experts. Information about the new examinations and applications may be found on the TDLR web site at www.license.state.tx.us/electricians/elec.htm .
If we can be of further assistance, please contact us at examination@license.state.tx.us
Sincerely,
Don Dudley, Director
Education and Examination Division
Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation
You received this message because you subscribed to the TDLR List Server to receive information concerning the Electricians program. If your subscription was in error or if you wish to discontinue use of this service, please visit www.license.state.tx.us/newsletters/unsubscribe.htm and follow the instructions to unsubscribe.
Texas exam
To: Texas Electrical Licensing Stakeholders
Re: New Texas Electrician Examinations and Testing Service
The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation would like to announce that it has entered into a new contract with PSI to develop, maintain and deliver licensing examinations.
This new contract, the resulting examinations and a new application process will change how electricians get licensed in Texas. A summary of the changes can be found below. These changes go into effect on September 1, 2009.
1. VERY IMPORTANT: ICC examinations taken on or after September 1, 2009 will NOT be accepted for Texas electrician licensing.
2. Instead of taking the examination and then applying to the department for a license, electricians will first make application to the department and then, if they are eligible, will be notified by mail that they may make an appointment to sit for their examination.
3. PSI will deliver new Texas electrician examinations at 17 sites around the state. See www.psiexams.com for additional information about PSI. These new TDLR examinations have been developed by Texas electrician subject matter experts. Information about the new examinations and applications may be found on the TDLR web site at www.license.state.tx.us/electricians/elec.htm .
If we can be of further assistance, please contact us at examination@license.state.tx.us
Sincerely,
Don Dudley, Director
Education and Examination Division
Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation
You received this message because you subscribed to the TDLR List Server to receive information concerning the Electricians program. If your subscription was in error or if you wish to discontinue use of this service, please visit www.license.state.tx.us/newsletters/unsubscribe.htm and follow the instructions to unsubscribe.
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