Thanks, and why didn't this kill me?

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Hello, this is my first post. I'd first like to thank Mike Holt for making his videos available on the internet. I found them just a few days ago and have binged for awhile. I'm not a professional, but a somewhat knowledgeable DIYer. These videos are really eye-opening, I see I've had some misunderstandings, and it's surprising how widespread so much misinformation is out there from even ostensibly credible sources, at least that means I'm not too much the moron. So again, Thank You Mike Holt, you are providing a real service to a lot of us non-pros who really don't want to kill ourselves and especially hurt or kill anyone or anything else either.

My main purpose for taking up your time, and thanks to anyone reading this, is to relate something that happened to me when I was a kid and that I've puzzled over, like why am I not dead? This is back probably late 1960s, I'm maybe 10 years old, we had a chain-link fence being removed, so there was a number of long aluminum poles laying on the ground, the top supports for the fence, and there were still two heavy duty poles stuck in the ground where a gate had been. So, I do what some dumb kid would do, I grabbed one of the long poles and tried to stick it down one of the gate poles, cuz it was there, you know! I'm kinda wobbling around with that long pole sticking way up in the air, trying to line it up well enough to slide into the gate pole and before I can manage to do that, I hear something right above me, loud and electric-y, just as I look up, I see this wire very gracefully falling down off to each side of me. Hmmmm? I proceed to find a hole burned into the other end of the pole I was holding, and another spot a foot or so down the pole almost burned through. There was one of the power lines that looked halfway burned across still on the poles, and of course there was the, now two, live wires with one end on the ground [well, one would have been live]. To my best recollection these were basic 3 wire lines with a transformer right around our house, but it was the main line running down the poles in our neighborhood, down the alleyway between houses.

Is there something obvious about why I felt nothing? Shouldn't that have been something like a 7-8 KV line there? This was a small town in Texas in the 1960s, I was way too young to know anything about that stuff back then. At least something above 120/240. I had tennis shoes on, standing in grass. Could it be that I had managed to have the pole I was holding touching the gate pole at the instant I hit the wires? I never got the pole into the gate pole, the timing would have been extremely fortunate if that is what happened, but as is reminded often in the videos, those pesky electrons don't take the path of least resistance, and I would have been paralleled with the gate pole, voltage divided at most maybe 10 to 1 due to length of pole vs gate pole. I don't know where to go with that, shouldn't I have felt something at least if not actually just felt ... dead? Was it the shoes?

Anyway, thanks for anyone taking the time to respond, I hope it might be of interest to some of you.
 
I doubt it was a primary but rather a secondary from the transformer--240/120V . I can only think that you were insulated somewhat thru sneakers or so. The current may have gone thru the pole directly to the one in the ground and not thru you.

Basically you had no path to ground/earth
 
I doubt it was a primary but rather a secondary from the transformer--240/120V . I can only think that you were insulated somewhat thru sneakers or so. The current may have gone thru the pole directly to the one in the ground and not thru you.

Basically you had no path to ground/earth
Thanks for the reply. I distinctly remember transformers between these lines and the houses. Plus, don't forget it's a fallacy to think current takes the path of least resistance, I was still in parallel with the gate pole. Do you know what voltage those lines would have been if there were transformers between them and the houses? I don't know anything about how such lines are configured, especially considering we're talking almost 50 years ago, and a small town, how standard were/are these things?
 
I don't know anything about how such lines are configured, especially considering we're talking almost 50 years ago, and a small town, how standard were/are these things?

In many small towns things may not have changed at all in the last 50 years. As a matter of fact the same power lines may still be in use.
 
I hear something right above me, loud and electric-y, just as I look up, I see this wire very gracefully falling down off to each side of me. Hmmmm? I proceed to find a hole burned into the other end of the pole I was holding, and another spot a foot or so down the pole almost burned through. There was one of the power lines that looked halfway burned across still on the poles, and of course there was the, now two, live wires with one end on the ground [well, one would have been live]. To my best recollection these were basic 3 wire lines with a transformer right around our house, but it was the main line running down the poles in our neighborhood, down the alleyway between houses.

Is there something obvious about why I felt nothing? Shouldn't that have been something like a 7-8 KV line there? This was a small town in Texas in the 1960s, I was way too young to know anything about that stuff back then. At least something above 120/240. I had tennis shoes on, standing in grass. Could it be that I had managed to have the pole I was holding touching the gate pole at the instant I hit the wires?


If I understand what you are saying correctly and there were two burned spots on the pole you were holding I think you managed to short the power line from phase to phase and this let it burn into rather quickly. It also probably opened the primary to the transformer (fuse).


On the secondary side it would have been 240V phase to phase and 120V to ground. If the ground were really dry and you wearing sneakers this could have been enough to protect you.


But most of all I think you were just darned lucky.
 
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