Dale001289
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Is there a simple guideline (without using Etap or Neher-McGrath) to determine basic conductor sizes in concrete at a depth of say 4' versus a duct bank at 26'?
In my opinion 4'=48" but 26' =26*12=312". I think it has to be 2.5'=30".
Usually, the depth of a duct bank-see NEC art.310 or IEEE 835/ 3.3.1 Duct banks (30 inches cover over top of duct bank).
The heat evacuation from a cable through different layers of different thermal resistance is like the current run through different impedances and the temperature drop it is instead of voltage drop. Approximately 10-15% of the temperature drop through cable insulation, jacket, through conduit and concrete does not depend on earth thermal resistance and depth but the rest of 85-90% run through earth.
So, I agree with don_resqcapt19.
NEC Informative Annex B Application Information for Ampacity Calculation
8.3 Criteria Modifications.
Where the burial depth of direct burial or electrical duct bank circuits are modified from the values shown in a figure or table, ampacities can be modified as shown in (a) and (b) as follows:
(b) Where burial depths are deeper than shown in a specific underground ampacity table or figure, an ampacity derating factor of 6 percent per increased 300 mm (foot) of depth for all values of Rho can be utilized. No rating change is needed where the burial depth is decreased.
In my opinion 4'=48" but 26' =26*12=312". I think it has to be 2.5'=30".
Usually, the depth of a duct bank-see NEC art.310 or IEEE 835/ 3.3.1 Duct banks (30 inches cover over top of duct bank).
The heat evacuation from a cable through different layers of different thermal resistance is like the current run through different impedances and the temperature drop it is instead of voltage drop. Approximately 10-15% of the temperature drop through cable insulation, jacket, through conduit and concrete does not depend on earth thermal resistance and depth but the rest of 85-90% run through earth.
So, I agree with don_resqcapt19.
NEC Informative Annex B Application Information for Ampacity Calculation
8.3 Criteria Modifications.
Where the burial depth of direct burial or electrical duct bank circuits are modified from the values shown in a figure or table, ampacities can be modified as shown in (a) and (b) as follows:
(b) Where burial depths are deeper than shown in a specific underground ampacity table or figure, an ampacity derating factor of 6 percent per increased 300 mm (foot) of depth for all values of Rho can be utilized. No rating change is needed where the burial depth is decreased.