This New Technology of Wireless

[mtnelect]

It can sure save you money up front ... it will surely cost you down the line, with service calls.
Don't be suckered to believing the hype.

 

[mtnelect]

I have experience in installing "Nest" thermostats. The problem is the wireless signal have limits to covering your home. Most customers have to install "Extenders" that don't work all the time. You will not be satisfied,

 

[letgomywago]

That sucks I liked installing nest thermostats since if I misread the airhandler wiring diagram it "adjusts" to what it should be

 

[marmathsen]

I find myself frequently trying to explain to customers that they need to wire for Wi-Fi. Even with the best routers you still have issues with walls, floors, long distances, etc, etc, etc. So it's best to run Ethernet and use Wi-Fi access points that actually plug into the network rather than Wi-Fi boosters.

Rob G, Seattle

 

[letgomywago]

I find myself frequently trying to explain to customers that they need to wire for Wi-Fi. Even with the best routers you still have issues with walls, floors, long distances, etc, etc, etc. So it's best to run Ethernet and use Wi-Fi access points that actually plug into the network rather than Wi-Fi boosters.

Rob G, Seattle

I did my old house that way with 2 Google extenders hardwired into the modem. Stuff worked great that way.

 

[retirede]

Wireless technology isn’t new. It is what it is and it’s limitations and how to deal with them are known. A little common sense goes a long way.

 

[ggunn]

One application of wireless tech that I use is wireless HDMI. I have a computer connected to one of the HDMI ports on my living room TV and the HDMI transmitter; the HDMI receiver is in my man cave. It works great; I can have a baseball game from MLB.com on both TVs.

 

[Krusscher]

It can sure save you money up front ... it will surely cost you down the line, with service calls.
Don't be suckered to believing the hype.

just like anything it has it's place. I think the hype is pretty real with wireless if you know when and when not to use it. It's only gonna get better with time as it has since it came about.

 

[VirutalElectrician]

I have experience in installing "Nest" thermostats. The problem is the wireless signal have limits to covering your home. Most customers have to install "Extenders" that don't work all the time. You will not be satisfied,

To complicate matters, devices such as thermostats, IP cameras, light switches, even TVs, etc, etc, etc, should really be on their own isolated IOT network, seperated from the home wireless. These imbedded devices typically have poor security and are frequently abandoned products a year or two after release, so there are no more security updates.

You don't want these devices on the same network as your phones and laptops where you do your banking, have your NAS appliance, etc.

 

[brantmacga]

Selling wireless devices brings a good opportunity to sell wireless equipment. I’ve stopped selling directly and use an AV integrator sub that can handle the tech support side as well. I’ve got a fairly robust commercial grade networking system with wireless roaming in my house that I demo for customers and it will sell itself. All of my TV’s and media server are hard wired, but everything else is wireless. I have two Zigbee mesh networks for all of my lighting and controlled receptacles.


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[marmathsen]

To complicate matters, devices such as thermostats, IP cameras, light switches, even TVs, etc, etc, etc, should really be on their own isolated IOT network, seperated from the home wireless. These imbedded devices typically have poor security and are frequently abandoned products a year or two after release, so there are no more security updates.

You don't want these devices on the same network as your phones and laptops where you do your banking, have your NAS appliance, etc.

All true. But of course separating IOT devices from your main network also breaks a lot of integrations and ability to control the devices on the different networks. Or at least without some advanced network configurations.

Rob G, Seattle

 

[Joethemechanic]

I don't like it. You are just one Carrington Event away from not even being able to start your back up generator.

 

[Sberry]

I was somewhere the other day, were going to switch stair lights with a remote thingy,, I talked them into 3 way doesn't need batteries.

 

[Krusscher]

I was somewhere the other day, were going to switch stair lights with a remote thingy,, I talked them into 3 way doesn't need batteries.

The electrician that I replaced was a big fan of wireless switches and I gotta say that technology just isn't there yet . They thought it would work around 2 corners and down a 100 ft corridor... when I got here the guy that was showing me around picked up the switch that was laying on some boxes in the middle of the corridor and said "this is about as far as this works". On the other side of the corridor was an elevator so you were in the dark until you reached those boxes if you knew a switch was laying on them. Needless to say I put in a hardwired 3 way switch even though it was a pain.

 

[kwired]

That sucks I liked installing nest thermostats since if I misread the airhandler wiring diagram it "adjusts" to what it should be

I have found out that the changeover control wire for heat pumps doesn't adjust whether on is for heat or cool mode on a Nest thermostat

 

[kwired]

Did a major remodel a year or so ago. She bought two similar ceiling fans with light, one for master bed one for living room. By design there was no place for pull chains, motor was apparently a DC motor and lights were LED, so only one pair of AC input leads to run everything and everything controlled by on board components and a remote control. Of course both set the same from factory and if you try to change something in one room it makes same change in the other room as well. I read through instructions on how to pair to a specific remote, but never could successfully separate them. Since I didn't sell them the fans did not feel obligated to put too much effort into this. Don't know if they ever figured it out.

 

[ggunn]

I have found out that the changeover control wire for heat pumps doesn't adjust whether on is for heat or cool mode on a Nest thermostat

Does anyone make a thermostat that will turn on heating or cooling to maintain a temperature setpoint with a couple of degrees of hysteresis to keep the temperature in a particular range?

 

[LarryFine]

I have found out that the changeover control wire for heat pumps doesn't adjust whether on is for heat or cool mode on a Nest thermostat

How do it know?

 

[LarryFine]

Does anyone make a thermostat that will turn on heating or cooling to maintain a temperature setpoint with a couple of degrees of hysteresis to keep the temperature in a particular range?

The Nest do. It has a heat/cool setting in addition to heat and cool.

 

[jim dungar]

Does anyone make a thermostat that will turn on heating or cooling to maintain a temperature setpoint with a couple of degrees of hysteresis to keep the temperature in a particular range?

Some of the Honeywell products do this.