TwistLock
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- Location
- California
- Occupation
- Electrician
Called out for a quote to replace a stove in a residential high rise built in ’60’s.
( Zinsco sub-panel in unit. They don’t want it changed just yet and I can clearly see someone replaced both buss’s already with plated copper along with most breakers ).
Existing FMC from sub-panel hardwired to existing 1960 stove in kitchen (50a / 6awg cu). 3 wires: 2 ungrounded conductors, 1 grounded conductor, no EGC.
Because there is FMC existing I will pull a #10 ground so I can use a nema 14-50 cord / receptacle.
That’s the lay of the land. My actual question is other than all this:
Regardless if I change the sub-panel or not I noticed as they used to do that the sub-panel’s neutral buss is strapped to the can (bonded). There are no EGC’s. Lifting the dropped ceiling tile I see 1-½” emt feeding the panel. Looking at the other end of the run in the main breaker center (photo) down the shared hallway I see FMC originating.
Question: Which is the lesser of evils - leaving the sub-panel bonded to neutral buss (whether I update it or not) because that’s what was passed back in the day. Or disconnecting / separating the ground strap from neutral buss in the sub-panel ?
( Zinsco sub-panel in unit. They don’t want it changed just yet and I can clearly see someone replaced both buss’s already with plated copper along with most breakers ).
Existing FMC from sub-panel hardwired to existing 1960 stove in kitchen (50a / 6awg cu). 3 wires: 2 ungrounded conductors, 1 grounded conductor, no EGC.
Because there is FMC existing I will pull a #10 ground so I can use a nema 14-50 cord / receptacle.
That’s the lay of the land. My actual question is other than all this:
Regardless if I change the sub-panel or not I noticed as they used to do that the sub-panel’s neutral buss is strapped to the can (bonded). There are no EGC’s. Lifting the dropped ceiling tile I see 1-½” emt feeding the panel. Looking at the other end of the run in the main breaker center (photo) down the shared hallway I see FMC originating.
Question: Which is the lesser of evils - leaving the sub-panel bonded to neutral buss (whether I update it or not) because that’s what was passed back in the day. Or disconnecting / separating the ground strap from neutral buss in the sub-panel ?