Torque, al vs cu

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I've never seen different values listed on any equipment that we've installed.
 
I don’t know how to post a poll here in the Forum but I’d be interested to know how many EC’s actually carry a torque wrench on their service vehicles. I have so many tools, parts, equipment, etc. on my truck I barely have room to carry materials to a job. I believe in the 2017 NEC they are now requiring a specific torque on screw-down terminals. How many EI’s are going to check for that ?
 
goldstar said:
I don’t know how to post a poll here in the Forum but I’d be interested to know how many EC’s actually carry a torque wrench on their service vehicles. I have so many tools, parts, equipment, etc. on my truck I barely have room to carry materials to a job. I believe in the 2017 NEC they are now requiring a specific torque on screw-down terminals. How many EI’s are going to check for that ?
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It's actually been required for decades as part of the listing instructions for the equipment but now the language has entered the NEC. I would guess that some inspectors will carry a torque screwdriver and hit a few random screws.
 
infinity said:
It's actually been required for decades as part of the listing instructions for the equipment but now the language has entered the NEC. I would guess that some inspectors will carry a torque screwdriver and hit a few random screws.
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Sounds like a fun time at the inspection.:cool:

Are you now going to get tagged for over-torquing as well as under-torquing.:?

How many EI’s are now going to have torque wrenches or screwdrivers at the ready when they inspect? I don’t see it happening unless they’re out to break chops IMHO.

Most EI’s that I meet want to be in and out of the inspection as quickly as possible. If they come on the job and notice violations at first glance then they will delve further. Otherwise, when they pull up to the job and have a favorite song playing on the radio, they want the same song playing when they get back in the car. :lol:
 
goldstar said:
Most EI’s that I meet want to be in and out of the inspection as quickly as possible. If they come on the job and notice violations at first glance then they will delve further. Otherwise, when they pull up to the job and have a favorite song playing on the radio, they want the same song playing when they get back in the car. :lol:
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I agree, I guess that you know BF. ;)

It was so bad at one time the State had to crack down on drive-by inspections. There is a Bergen County EI that I know from State CEU's seminars who probably has his torque screwdriver already to go once we adopt the 2017....
 
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I agree, I guess that you know BF. ;)

It was so bad at one time the State had to crack down on drive-by inspections. There is a Bergen County EI that I know from State CEU's seminars who probably has his torque screwdriver already to go once we adopt the 2017....
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And, I’ll bet I know who,it is !!!
 
In Palo Alto CA you had better have your torque wrench and your torque screwdriver at the ready for inspection. Yes, inspections last a bit longer.
 
They have asked for years around my neck of the woods but just check to see if you have a wrench I'm sure the screwdriver question is coming next. But how can they check without being present during installation? If overtighten how could they know?
 
KnightPower said:
They have asked for years around my neck of the woods but just check to see if you have a wrench I'm sure the screwdriver question is coming next. But how can they check without being present during installation? If overtighten how could they know?
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I agree, the only way they can properly verify is to witness the termination. Proper way to "check later" is to loosen first then tighten again. Kind of hard to say it was or wasn't done right the first time if it wasn't witnessed.

Asking to see a torque wrench will not prove whether it was used or not either, and just because you don't have one with you today doesn't mean you didn't have one the day the termination was made or mean you don't have one at all either.

Some inspectors need good knock on the head with a 3/4 socket drive torque wrench.:D
 
kwired said:
I agree, the only way they can properly verify is to witness the termination. Proper way to "check later" is to loosen first then tighten again. Kind of hard to say it was or wasn't done right the first time if it wasn't witnessed.

Asking to see a torque wrench will not prove whether it was used or not either, and just because you don't have one with you today doesn't mean you didn't have one the day the termination was made or mean you don't have one at all either.

Some inspectors need good knock on the head with a 3/4 socket drive torque wrench.:D
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When the NEC requires we make up a fitting 'wrench tight', I have never seen an inspector have wrench to check one with. Why would torqued to spec be any different?
 
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K8MHZ said:
When the NEC requires we make up a fitting 'wrench tight', I have never seen an inspector have wrench to check one with. Why would torqued to spec be any different?
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Doesn't say whether you need to use a 10 inch wrench or a 36 inch wrench either.;)
 
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