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DENN M.

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Just looking for some input.......typically as a standard practice, I don't feed more than 1 panel directly from the secondary side of a transformer. I have a customer whose engineer is trying to convince him to oversize the transformer so that he can add another panel to the secondary side of transformer later. I don't like the idea. Anybody have advice or code sections to support either position?

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Code compliant if installed correctly. If he wants to write a big enough check you can install a transformer for any number of panels.
 
I have a customer whose engineer is trying to convince him to oversize the transformer so that he can add another panel to the secondary side of transformer later. I don't like the idea.

This is common, what don't you like about the idea?

Consider the entire building is being supplied from one transformer, heck that transformer may supply more than one building.
 
Code compliant if installed correctly. If he wants to write a big enough check you can install a transformer for any number of panels.

To add some "color", keep in mind Note 2 for Table 450.3(B) which says that the additive total of secondary breaker ratings can't be more than what it would have been if there was one breaker.
 
This is common, what don't you like about the idea?

Consider the entire building is being supplied from one transformer, heck that transformer may supply more than one building.
Well, I'll elaborate first.......The engineer is requiring a 225kva transformer for "future use", but the only thing on the secondary side of that transformer will be a single phase 400amp panel. A lot of overkill for something that may never change. Also, in an industrial setting, I don't like to have more than 1 panel on the secondary side because if there's any issue with the transformer or if you have to shut it off for any reason, there is more equipment affected and more production lost.

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To add some "color", keep in mind Note 2 for Table 450.3(B) which says that the additive total of secondary breaker ratings can't be more than what it would have been if there was one breaker.
I hear ya......Thanks

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Well, I'll elaborate first.......The engineer is requiring a 225kva transformer for "future use", but the only thing on the secondary side of that transformer will be a single phase 400amp panel. A lot of overkill for something that may never change. Also, in an industrial setting, I don't like to have more than 1 panel on the secondary side because if there's any issue with the transformer or if you have to shut it off for any reason, there is more equipment affected and more production lost.

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maybe he knows about some future plans that are not considered any of your business at present.
 
To add some "color", keep in mind Note 2 for Table 450.3(B) which says that the additive total of secondary breaker ratings can't be more than what it would have been if there was one breaker.

But, to keep the "color" wheel active, Note 2 only applies when one is depending on secondary overcurrent devices for transformer protection.
If I protect my primary per 450.3(B) then I could have any number of secondary panels of any rating provided I met all the Art 240 rules.
 
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