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jmellc

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I may have discussed this before, can't recall.

I have a love/hate relationship with tray cable. Very convenient in many ways and faster than conduit/wire pulling. But wire colors are screwed up from the start. Most 3 wire cable is black, red, blue. Nearly all runs require a ground, so one should be green or bare. A few with more wires do have a bare ground but not many. So, any 120 volt run has to be color coded on 2 wires. My preferred way for a long time was to use the one matching circuit color, then code the other 2 as needed. I liked it but it did mean coding different colors different times. Plus, no 2 people did it the same. I have come to think the better way is always use black for line, code red/white for neutral and blue/green for ground. 208 would be black/red for circuit, code blue/green for ground. I go to panels and see all colors having been coded differently. Can be real confusing tracking a neutral or ground in many cases. In cables with more wires, I often see orange coded for green.

I don't know what manufacturers are thinking. 3 wire cable should be black, white, green. 4 wire should be black, red, white, green, etc. Should follow same color patterns as Romex IMHO.
 

augie47

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It's likely supply & demand...they do make a tray cable with green ans white but I imagine a huge percentage of TC is 3 phase.
 

jmellc

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It's likely supply & demand...they do make a tray cable with green ans white but I imagine a huge percentage of TC is 3 phase.
Never saw this chart before. I knew it was probably available somewhere but I never had the choice of ordering it. I used what was given to me. When I had my business, I didn't get any industrial work, so never had the need to order it myself.
 

MD Automation

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Hey, just throwing this out there in case it's an option...

In my line of work we used a lot of tray cables w/o colors. All except the green/yellow (ground) were black - but numbered. If you needed a neutral, then white tape to identify would work I assume.

We used mostly Lapp Cable (from Stuttgart Germany), easy enough to order here in the States I'm sure. Could not guess on price compared to other brands.

Here is a scrap piece I found this morning at home... 4C, (3) Black and (1) Green/Yellow...

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Just another idea.
 

Todd0x1

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Black White Green tray cable in 14ga-10ga is readily available from Omnicable (through your favorite electrical distributor) Others have it as well.
 

jmellc

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Facility Maintenance Tech. Licensed Electrician
Hey, just throwing this out there in case it's an option...

In my line of work we used a lot of tray cables w/o colors. All except the green/yellow (ground) were black - but numbered. If you needed a neutral, then white tape to identify would work I assume.

We used mostly Lapp Cable (from Stuttgart Germany), easy enough to order here in the States I'm sure. Could not guess on price compared to other brands.

Here is a scrap piece I found this morning at home... 4C, (3) Black and (1) Green/Yellow...

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Just another idea.
I’ve seen a bit of cable like that, though not tray cable. I like having a green for sure.
 

jmellc

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Durham, NC
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Facility Maintenance Tech. Licensed Electrician
Black White Green tray cable in 14ga-10ga is readily available from Omnicable (through your favorite electrical distributor) Others have it as well.
I’ll see if the boss can start getting this. A help for sure. I’d like to see us come up with a plan that we follow and also demand it of contractors.
 
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