Trust but verify

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peter

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I had just started a new job with a small outfit that does tract houses. As luck would have it, the first day, it rained. Rather than send me home, they told me to report to the shop.
They had a couple of those big 15 gallon, galvanized pails sitting on Coleman stoves. One was filled with yellow Rit dye and the other with orange dye. There was a palletfull of #14 Romex boxes. Our job was to remove the rolls from the boxes, spread the coils out and soak them in the dye solutions. (First we taped the ends with black phase tape.) After drying, the cable was recoiled using one of those winding machines like you find by the wire elevator at Home Depot. And then it was stuffed back in the cartons.
Asking Jeff what this was all about, he said, “The inspector wants to see yellow wire going to the kitchens and bathrooms. And he wants to see orange wire to the cold water heater and the electric dryer.”
This is just a note to you inspectors out there to keep on your toes.
 

dillon3c

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Re: Trust but verify

I think you need to - drop a dime- on this people....Make a Phone-Call,as the saying goes..

[ April 01, 2005, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: dillon3c ]
 

George Stolz

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Re: Trust but verify

Terrible, sure, no question. Something needs to be done about the inspectors.

But one question that is kinda bugging me. Why not purchase colored romex instead of dying what they have? Do they have a lot of old stock or something? (Not that I'm saying they should have to purchase colored romex to get an inspection passed!) Just seems like a lot of labor down the toilet doing that. :confused:

[ April 01, 2005, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
 

dillon3c

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George,
Could they be doing this to fool a young Inspector,on the wire size,because of color of sheath?...Sounds kinda insane I know..But why else?
 

George Stolz

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Originally posted by peter:
There was a palletfull of #14 Romex boxes. Our job was to remove the rolls from the boxes, spread the coils out and soak them in the dye solutions.
Holy crap!!! I missed that!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
 

George Stolz

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If done well, it would fool a lot of people. I'd never expect to see anything that stupid! :eek:

[ April 01, 2005, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
 

roger

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Dillon, you're right, according to Peters' post that is exactly what they are doing.

Using #14 for 20 and even 30 amp circuits.

Roger
 

dillon3c

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Palet of #14 could have got wet,mold on outer sheath,and boxes still intact...But why those colors George?....Why thoses colors?
 

George Stolz

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I told this to a co-worker this morning, and he immediately came back with the statement that this was probably an april fools gag. Is that true? :D
 

dillon3c

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Peter,
Ya know, I've been thinking about this thread all day long.And reading this again,and the fact that no Electrical Contractor,could possibly be that stupid,and that tight, and occupy same set of boots..

And given the fact of what Calendar Date today is...You got me good man....
 

jimwalker

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I hope it's april fools.Have worked for cheap companies but that would take the cake.But if its no i have some great suggestions on how to solve it real good :roll:
 

dillon3c

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Originally posted by peter:
[QB] taped the ends with black phase tape.)--------------------------------------------------------------->This statement, should have run some flags up the pole right here..
 

George Stolz

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Re: Trust but verify

I have to say, it was well-presented. He just started with the company; had an excuse to be at the shop on the first day; and the elaborate description of the setup. Very cool. :D :cool:
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[ April 01, 2005, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
 

dillon3c

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oh yeh,first-class gagg.... ;)

[ April 01, 2005, 04:34 PM: Message edited by: dillon3c ]
 
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