Two pole afci circuit breaker

[crtemp]

I can't find anything wrong with using these for MWBC's. Is there anything that stands out to anyone that suggests that I can't use them?

They say they are okay in "I-T-E" panels. Are these Siemens panels? They look exactly like Siemens breakers but they are made by Murray.

I basically just want to pull a 12/3 to the washer and then come out to the kitchen, and pull a 12/3 to the kitchen and then to the microhood. I can get these for cheaper than buying two single AFCI breakers.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

A dp afci should work however when one trips then both circuits will trip. I would not use it unless I had to

 

[crtemp]

A dp afci should work however when one trips then both circuits will trip. I would not use it unless I had to

what about the I-T-E? Do you know anything about that? Is that a Siemens panel?

 

[tom baker]

The breaker must be identified as useable on a common neutral circuit, otherwise it will trip

 

[crtemp]

The breaker must be identified as useable on a common neutral circuit, otherwise it will trip

Well it only has a spot to land one neutral on it so I'm assuming it is

 

[elf friend]

If you do an internet search for I.T.E. it comes up as Seimens/ITE so it looks like somewhere in time Seimens bought out ITE.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

If you do an internet search for I.T.E. it comes up as Seimens/ITE so it looks like somewhere in time Seimens bought out ITE.

Yes and that was done many many years ago.

 

[JDB3]

Description:

The Southwire Romex SIMpull 250 ft. Yellow 12/2/2 NM-B Cable is meant for use in indoor locations where moisture and dampness are not present. This non-metallic sheathed cable offers a ground wire and a 600-volt rating. UL listed.

Along the same line, has anyone seen this in person? Home Depot has it listed online, a bit pricy though! Just over $200.00 for 250 feet. :happysad:

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I have not seen it around here but I have heard about years ago. They have 12/2/2, 14/2/2 and even 12/4 .

 

[mjf]

great for SABC's.

 

[Little Bill]

great for SABC's.

Also great for the requirement for a neutral at a switch.

 

[kwired]

It appears Murray is under control of Siemens in some way - their website is a a part of the Siemens site

http://www.industry.usa.siemens.com/topics/us/en/murrayconnect/Pages/MurrayConnect.aspx

some reading on Siemens - they are a HUGE business, and maybe have their hands in many things you don't even realize

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens

 

[Sierrasparky]

Siemens aquired Murray several years ago.
The murray line was consoledated into the Siemens line.

 

[kwired]

Siemens aquired Murray several years ago.
The murray line was consoledated into the Siemens line.

Apparently was not absorbed as deeply as the ITE, Furnas, or some other lines were. Those names are essentially gone other then for dealing with existing equipment, there is still equipment being made with the Murray name on it. Someday that name could disappear as well, may just be a legal thing that needs to run through a period that was determined at acquisition, then they can do whatever they want with it.