Ufer ground inspection

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rcarroll

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Do you go out to a site & inspect or have a strutcural engineer verify compliance? My office does not inspect footing & foundations on new construction. We usually inspect the GEC to the rebar on commercial jobs, but not houses. I guess we have no idea if the rebar sticking out of the foundation wall is actually installed properly to be a grounding electrode. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ron.
 
I am a combination inspector, so I inspect every aspect of the home. I always check the UFER ground at the footing inspection.

Chris
 
Somebody should make a note of this for Connecticut, I have yet to do a CEE in residential ... so obviously somebody is dropping the ball with the footing inspections... :mad:
 
SW Florida it is painted green, inspected by the Structual inspector before the pour and noted in the computer as to location for the Electric inspector to find on the rough inspection. gren paint is cleaned off for connection of GEC. This is done inside the wall. For those of you who say it is not in contact with the earth because of the vapor barrier, the vaper barrier is cut to expose the Ufer for at least 20'.
 
Scott,

Why do you consider the CEE to be a trivial matter. The code mandates

me to install it, just like many other things.

While I'm at it, I don't believe EI's have the option to pick and chose the

tasks for the job that they applied for!! IMO
 
Around here the CEE connection is inspected before the footing is poured. I really don't even know who actually does the inspection. My guess is that the building inspector looks at it while he's doing the footing inspection.
 
I call the inspectors on them before the pour. Only once or twice have they bothered to go out and look at it. Mostly they just ask me a question or two about how I did it. I always take a picture or three and save those just in case something comes up.
 
iwire said:
Here in MA an electrical inspector must inspect the electrode before the pour.
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Same here. but if the GC screws this up I use 250.50 Exception. If the concrete is poured before I get there it is existing.
 
chris kennedy said:
Same here. but if the GC screws this up I use 250.50 Exception. If the concrete is poured before I get there it is existing.
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That was the case under the 2002, under the 2005 we have to use it.

The state sent a letter out to GCs and ECs saying basically that you will either get it inspected before the pour or you will be breaking the cement to make it happen.

They put this in the GCs lap to take the time to hire an EC to handle this before the pour.
 
Not all footings here contain rebar so in many cases it is a non issue.

I do not consider it a trivial matter but trying to get some inspectors out to look at a major job is tough enough, try to get them to look at a piece of wire connected to a peice of steel.

"Forgive me for bothering you Mr inspector......." :roll:
 
electricmanscott said:
Not all footings here contain rebar so in many cases it is a non issue.

I do not consider it a trivial matter but trying to get some inspectors out to look at a major job is tough enough, try to get them to look at a piece of wire connected to a peice of steel.

"Forgive me for bothering you Mr inspector......." :roll:
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They have to do a footing inspection anyways, so its not really not that hard to get them out there...
 
stickboy1375 said:
They have to do a footing inspection anyways, so its not really not that hard to get them out there...
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As I stated in my first post, my office doesn't inspect new foundations. We request a letter from the structural engineer who designs the foundations. Except, we inspect for ufers on commercial. Don't know why. The question finally came up if we are truly getting what the code requires & are getting some opinions from elsewhere. I guess then we will adress this accordingly. Thanks to all of you. Ron
 
rcarroll said:
As I stated in my first post, my office doesn't inspect new foundations. We request a letter from the structural engineer who designs the foundations. Except, we inspect for ufers on commercial. Don't know why. The question finally came up if we are truly getting what the code requires & are getting some opinions from elsewhere. I guess then we will adress this accordingly. Thanks to all of you. Ron
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Around here they always want to inspect the footing drains, so this is when the ufer should be a pass or fail...
 
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